Hypochlorous Acid......a Deep Dive

No, actually I have a small formulation plant, and mfg my amino acid chelates under a CDFA
Commercial License (They are all labeled, but can only sell to ag growers or Ag greenhouse ops)

Quite a bit different from BBP…they are solely micronutrient sprays…

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If you adjust you focus you can actually read the instructions on my original post

I think I remember seeing this mentioned in one of the articles/studies I (might have) posted above somewhere. I thought the same as you, tablets, shelf life, sounds good. Didn’t get too much farther into it. Maybe I looked up and saw the cost and said nevermind. Plus I have a NatureChlor already.

Fuck yea.

Wettable Sulfur, or JADAM Sulfur are options, if you didn’t know.

Looks like the same strips that came with my Naturechlor unit. I have Bartovation ones too (that go higher in concentration).

Yea, something like that, I think. I think mine uses Titanium? That’s probably the source of most of the cost, I would guess?

Try rehydrating, restoring it. Daniel Fernandez has some instructions somewhere. And I think Apera (brand) does too. Use KCl solution, some other tips too. Can’t remember.

Likely. It’s pretty common. It’s used for all kinds of stuff, topical, eye washes, wound cleaning, hospitals, dentistry, etc. In varying, and often lower concentrations though! It’s produced in the human body. I use it on my hands all the time. Better than alcohol drying out your skin, in my opinion.

Apera are good. I have their combo meter. I have a bit of an issue with their supplied pH probe for this unit though. But Daniel Fernandez uses, and recommends them as well - The pen style - not the combo meters (he doesn’t particularly like the combo meter styles, in any brand). Anyways…

I’m trying to get the absolute most I can get out of this current pH probe. I have a couple Blue Lab combo meters, and a Blue Lab Guardian brand new too. But I’d love some Atlas Scientific gear.

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The price on the tablets I saw was very reasonable. 5 tablets (to make 1.25 gallons total) for $15.

And yea, I meant the apera pens. I’ve been using their cheap AI209 for years now without any issues. I think I’ve only had to calibrate maybe 2-3 times. I just always make sure the bulb is soaking in storage solution (in the cap).

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Thanks for the encouragement.
Pretty sure moisture was the cause. Looks like they are sending a new one.

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Man this was my best Black Friday buy!
5 gallons at a rip? Eat shit wpm.

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I continue with the experiment… Hahaha
This are the electrodes that I use.
Two graphite bars, 5,5cm long 8mm diameter. Away 5cm from each other.

And I picked small foggers, 2-3€ more or less… That for a little indoor looks good for me, and they mist pretty well.

For selective application are good.

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I broke down a purchased and eco.

How many ppm HOCl are you all using in hydro for root rot and spraying plant and floor and wall cleanup. What bugs does this kill if any.

I plan on keeping 200ppm on hand.
5mil in 1 liter makes 1 ppm. Is this safe for roots?

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@Turpman, all good questions…

Hypochlorous acid DOES NOT kill any pests.
You want to brew your hypochlorous acid at 500ppm. Go back and check post# 78 in this thread.
It will give you a step by step process…

For a root cleanse in hydro systems you want to use 2.5ml/Gal water of the 400-500ppm acid…a little over or under on the ppm here will not be significant…hope that helps !

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Ok thanks.

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From https://scienceinhydroponics.com/2023/01/how-to-prepare-your-own-hypochlorous-acid-cleaner-using-bleach.html

“…This should provide you with a solution that is stable in the medium term and has the active chlorine concentration of a formulation similar to products like Athena Cleanse. The expected concentration of hypochlorous acid should be around 0.02% (200ppm). It can be used from 2 to 10mL/gal of hydroponic nutrient solution, depending on the severity of the problems that need to be solved. For overall maintenance and the solution of minor infections, dosages of 5mL/gal should be more than adequate.”

From Clear Line Hydroponic Hypochlorous Acid Review - GROZINE.

Clear Line Hydroponic Hypochlorous Acid Review

"Let’s get down to it then, shall we? As you guessed, Clear Line is a hydroponic nutrient additive that contains hypochlorous acid–around 0.15% by weight or around 1500 ppm. While this may sound mild, the formulation is highly potent, with a recommended dosage rate of 0.25 to 1 ml of Clear Line to be added per gallon of water or nutrient solution.

So, if adding 0.5ml of Clear Line per US gallon (3.785L), you are effectively adding about 0.2 ppm (parts per million) of hypochlorous acid. In real terms, this should typically elevate your water or nutrient solution to near optimal ORP levels. If your water or hydroponic system is prone to microorganisms or harboring pathogens, the levels will drop back out of the optimal range faster–because the oxidation reduction potential is getting used up neutralizing unwanted pathogens, bacteria, etc."

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Well, posted this in my thread but I want people to see this, so sticking it in here too! Hope that’s acceptable mods??? (Just caught up here, after mistakenly posting this in the BBP thread!) :upside_down_face: Glad to see some of the people I tagged have already found and purchased this same unit! :trophy:

And Now… :drum: :drum: :drum: :newspaper_roll::roll_eyes:

It’s HERE!!! My new 'Blemished" 5 gallon Hypoclorious Aid generator from Controlomatic has arrived! Oh MY GOD!!! I’m tempted to brew up a 5-gallon batch tonight just 'cause I can!!!

And, I paid a little extra to get the 3-amp charger that speeds up the process of batching! They sent the normal one as well. So far, I’m stoked with Controlomatic! They were really helpful with my overseas order and freight, responded promptly on my questions and lived up to the predicted shipping times and rate. And I had NO Customs hassles at ALL! Delivered straight to my security guys, I believe, in the 9-days predicted!

Now, this unit (NatureChlor-Max) normally sells for $469 + shipping. BUT they also sell “Blemished” units at a very highly reduced rate! I paid something like $225 US including postage! I’d recommend ‘asking’ about pricing on shipping…when I went direct to the website it quoted me $271 but they had already checked the shipping price and quoted me $50 cheaper and when I asked about it they sorted it out right away.

They also make smaller models that are less expensive, but I need VOLUME here in the tropics! I want to be spraying this tomorrow morning with my 20-liter, gas-powered backpack fogger! Screw those whimpy little pump sprayer jobs! :rofl: And, like everyone else I have spoken to that has bought one of these ‘blemished’ units, it took some time to find the blemish!
https://overgrow.com/uploads/default/original/4X/1/9/5/19508a7a9b6d37faed55ff3eb653429d9cb51f4d.jpeg

Here’s their website, tell 'em I sent ya!
https://controlomatic.ecwid.com/HOCl-Generators-c49123203

:call_me_hand:

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Nice buy. How many ppm are you spraying on foliage?

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I’ve been using it at 300 PPM. I just wrote to Bob to ask about that…300 or 500??? PM and Septoria can hit anytime here, but botrytis seem to hit when everything is already in full bud. I plan to use my BIG fogger and will hit ALL plants, as well as ALL surrounding vegetation, for say…10 meters in all directions? :joy:

:call_me_hand:

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Hypochlorous acid + fogger = death to PM/septoria/botrytis

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Dealing with PM for the first time. Almost done with flower and the PM pressure isn’t too bad with my HEPA, but it’s there and I want those spores GONE after this run.

Seems like the HOCL + fogger is my best bet to sanitize the room. I imagine you set the fogger up and get out of the room while it’s fogging?

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The hypochlorous acid isn’t any big deal to be around. I just use a hand held fogger, and bathe in it as I go. :laughing:

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Very true !
With pets, It’s the ideal antiseptic! Kills pathogenic bacteria/fungi on contact, is not painful when applied to wounds, and is completely harmless if they lick themselves after application (which they always do!)

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HOCl is practically harmless (for people) to be around, especially at concentrations we’d use. I’ll spray it pretty much anywhere. I will spray it in a tote, I will spray it on a coat, some will spray it from a boat, others maybe will say “nope”.

I’d consider an ozone generator too (for “disinfecting” a room between runs). With ozone, you definitely don’t want anything alive in the treated room (pets, plants, other life that you don’t want dead).

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I soak my plants before defoliating outdoors. Arms dripping with the stuff with no gloves or ill effects.

Spray away! Avoid the eyes out of principle and common sense. :rofl:

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