LED_Seedz Team #3 - Lemon Garlic OG x Starfighter

Actually you made a much bigger deal out of it than was made by me, but since this has been brought up by you at least 20 times I guess I should try and squash this once and for all because quite frankly I have grown quite tired of seeing it brought up over and over again.

When a “Test grow” is set up by a breeder, it is just that a test. We have a good idea that there will be good things happen and chances are there will, but it is still a test. If the genetics were already proven, then a test wouldn’t be needed. This was NOT the case here at all. This was an F1 Hybrid.

Not only did you never mention a word about it, you pulled plants from the test to pollinate and make seeds and never ever asked a thing. I never had the chance to even see the plant finish because it was used to make seeds. You also hit other plants along the way with a male.

In my opinion a person that buys seeds if free to do with them as they wish. I mean you paid for them. Using testers that were sent at the breeders expense without even bothering to ask is just rude. Lets also remember, I never said a word to you and it wasn’t until you started receiving PM’s about it from others that you sent me a PM to ask if you had fucked up. I explained that I thought it was pretty rude and moved on, but you seem to want to keep bringing this up. That said, it was behind closed doors with me. You keep making it public, in fact I never said a word on the subject on an open forum.

You have never seen me tell someone not to use my seeds to make things when asked. The difference is in this case you just took seeds I wanted to see tested and decided to use them as you pleased. You were the only one I choose to test that genetic, and because I saw three plants I had to run them myself which put me months behind.

I know up to this point all you have ever been able to see is your perspective. Now maybe the picture is a little clearer and you can see why someone spending the better part of 40 years line breeding may be a bit ticked when someone says they will test for you, then they make seeds using test plants without asking.

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Again. I know nothing about the weeditiquette that goes with it. It was a naive and honest mistake. You got my word I won’t be making seeds with your genetics @LED_Seedz.

I did keep 13 seeds out of the batch you sent me. Was that a mistake?

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You have nothing to be sorry for. Had you asked I wouldn’t care, which is my point above. Just know that it would always be at the risk of creating issues when you are using unproven genetics. That is the difference between someone chucking pollen, and someone who cares about stabilizing strains to better the gene pool and not tear it down.

More times than not I assume everyone knows the unspoken rules of testing. I am often reminded that there are a lot more new growers now than there were in my day.

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Great points!

The breeder’s greatest asset, and liability, is the time the tester spends. Testing is different than a home grow. I can see not wanting to burden new testers with “the process”, yet the test run isn’t much help unless it offers a good glimpse into the plant’s development.

Chucking pollen is another matter. I think the grower can learn a ton from pollen chucking. It is a step in the process of learning how to breed. Nothing more.

It is also of great benefit for the rest of us to watch the testing process here on OG.

Thanks for sharing, one and all.

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That is what overgrowing the world it’s all about!

Spread the love!

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4 posts were merged into an existing topic: Lemon Garlic OG x Starfighter :lemon: vs Alien Rift :alien:

DAY CERO OF FLOWERING

I found four males in the LGOGxSF, i kept them in the tent just because the little nanners they have could pop a pistil, just hoping. I guess that is what you call wishful thinking.

Anyway, a few shots for you @LED_Seedz! Your wish is my command.

Male 1

Male 2

Male 3

Male 4

:lemon: LGOGxSF

Genetics are funny, on the LGOGxSF only the males showed pre-flowers, there are still 12 plants that are not really showing anything yet, you can see a very little pod growing on the nodes, but still a few days to find out what they are. They were flipped today, Feb 12th is Day 0 of flowering.

:alien: Alien Rift

While in the AR nine females presented pre-flowers, there are 3 plants not showing anything and that makes me think they are males but so far i got 74.99% female ratio on the Ocean Grown seeds, that is very impressive right! Considering they were regulars and not feminized seeds. Nine females out of twelve seeds.

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the one listed as male 1 looks female to me

If you look real close there is a brown nanner coming out of the left side of the stem, right by where my finger is.

But that is exactly why i left the in the tent. To make sure. I am still new at this you know. This is the very first time in my life i check my own plants for nanners. I have done it for other people, as a “consultant” but really, this is it.

im newer than you bro i was just going by the pointyness

Behind the pointy little things you see in there, it’s where the actual flowers pop out, so i am still waiting on some. Today is Day 0 of flowering.

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Nanner is short for banana, which is an indication of a plant that has hermied. You are totally using this word incorrectly and are describing this part of the plant wrong. They are male ______ that show on female plants.

There are zero banana’s or nanners on this plant.

I would also agree you are sexing this plant incorrectly or at the very least trying to a little too early. That little bump you are referring to may be a branch about to peek out. It also could be a ________.

You want to wait until you have several little ______ showing.

Tonight’s assignment, fill in the blanks with the proper terminology.

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Excellent!

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  1. Pollen sacks

  2. Cluster

  3. Pistils

I gotta get an A for effort! And prompt response too. LOL

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We’re sorry, but we are looking for the scientific names, and proper parts. You have one of three correct, but in the wrong place…

Hint, see anatomy.

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In that case i will have to turn it in by tomorrow, hope that’s ok. :wink:

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Hey @MadScientist, It looks like #4 is definitely male, #2 and #3 are probably maybe and #1 looks pretty female/too early to tell. Don’t do anything drastic!

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Week 6 update:
I switched to 12/12 on 2/10
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Anyone want to take a guess what is going on with these leaves?

they’re starting out like this;

and developing to this

At first I was thinking they needed more N, but now…? P def? I don’t know. There are three plants like this the others are looking ok.

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With all this male talk I’m gonna have to go back and see what the tester strain broke down into, as far as i could tell it looked to be about the norm 60/40 split F to M…but it seems everyone is having way more than the normal 40 % males???

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I only have 4 males out of 14 so far, but no for sure females either.

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