Isn’t that the point? To Overgrow the planet.
We spend our money to send seeds from our vault around the world. Attachment to outcome is not the point. Havent seen 1 seed grown of the many ive sent on OG.
Something is consistent here🤔
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@mods @admins not sure who to ask but can this stuff be moved to the MMS feedback thread. Pretty sure he started one in an attempt to defend himself.
Thanks
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Situation is messy
I can see the merit to what each of you are saying
Certainly there are some actions that can be seen as red flags, given the context
I am of the opinion that MMS seems mostly genuine, and may have made some mistakes
Of course we’ll have to actually grow out the seeds he sent to find out for ourselves
I also sent him an envelope with a few strains. Stuff I won’t grow soon and that also matches what Spliffs is looking for (mainly indica)
Haven’t received word yet that it arrived and I may not find out unless it’s through some of you who are in contact with MrSpliffs elsewhere
That’s okay with me
As for the 12 week vs 22 week time @willie I would also be upset if I was in your shoes and suddenly told that the strain is basically 2x the expected time for flowering
Same for what you’re saying @HomegrownVABudz
If someone asked me for something bc they said they plan to grow it ASAP it would be disheartening to see them trade that strain for other seeds. I see this as someone going against their word rather than an unwritten rule being broken. Esp since the seeds you sent were solicited and not part of a trade, it means you chose to send them to help fulfill a purpose that he requested them for
@Strikingviking and @Bayarealivingsoil I think it’s awesome that you guys are sending him a care package. Do you have plans for when that’s going out? I can contribute a few things, was already planning to send him an envelope
This is about how I’ve tried to approach it myself
I get why some members here view MMS as breaking their trust
Trust is our main currency here so it’s a big deal
I only wish that you’ll all remain trustful with those of us who want to give MrSpliffs a chance outside of the forum
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oh I didn’t realize it wasn’t good to trade seeds you traded for, I always think of them more like trading baseball cards on one level. I like a variety or certain breeding types or medicinal smoke so I’m always shuffling and sending out beans so they don’t sit in the fridge too long. There are some unwritten rules that I don’t know all of… but usually I always pop at least a few of everyones - if you don’t hear me talk about them it’s because your seedlings are weak in my environment.
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@MikeyMeteor In this case it seems less about the “trading seeds from someone else” and more about “MMS explicitly asked for someone to send him seeds bc he said he wants to grow more plants ASAP, but instead he’s trading the seeds that he said he would grow”
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definitely understood, he was hustling up some beans and I was definitely curious the master plan, I’m hoping that sweet strain he picked makes it through should be any day now. I’m popping them when I get them. Hopefully port of new york is less critical nowadays and probably is. I think I got one seizure in two years and a few disappeared. Hope you’re doing well MMS and I expect all will get smoothed out.
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His 12-14 answer was in regards to the lambsbread. We made a deal for a trade on a second pack at his insistence. So, I have both the lambsbread and the blue mountain coming but nothing has arrived yet. I’ve read about the time frame. Customs sucks but stuff was mailed so that’s a positive.
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Just add to that. He didn’t just pay the pack forward that he got from somebody else, he split it first so he could get 2 trades out of it. He did that when the take/leave thread was saturated with his gear…and when called on it, he said we left him no choice. He had a choice, he could have just left the thread at that point.
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@moderators can we please move this conversation https://overgrow.com/t/manymanyspliffs-feedback/161813
Thanks
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Pretty sure I sent a package, and because it’s international, I send 3-4 pucks to make it worth while.
I don’t mind over growing the world with honest potheads LOL
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So we don’t Overgrow with folks that are dishonest? I call bullshit. Im sure many have traded with folks that are truth challenged. Smh.
This sentiment makes sense with your kids college fund. But seeds?
Overgrow the world minus a Jamaican rooftop. Got it.
Strong taking my ball from the park energy. Weakness is as weakness does.
We Overgrow the world with folks wearing the correct color - Crips
We Overgrow the world with our race only - Hells Angels
We Overgrow the world with Cookies- Berner
3 of em.
Overgrow the World!
1 of em.
See the difference?
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I guess it’s the feeling of being burned for a “said” deal, not so much the stamp to send the beans. I guess the only group here would be honest people handing out or trading with honest people. But new members, please feel free to tell everyone that you are dishonest before the trade. Oh yeah and if your a liar and a thief, you can stay away from my beans too. I send out enough to honest people to overgrow the area around you. You can go steal them.
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I sent a pack of SOMA Lavender he said he would seed increase so I’m just hoping that’s still real and happening
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I mailed Spliffs a letter to let him know there are some things headed his way. I tossed a few bucks to help him be able to ship out seeds to those who got intercepted. I’m repackaging a few things while I await stuff from @emeraldbullfrog then I am splitting it up into 3 parcels to make sure we get something through. @Bayarealivingsoil I appreciate you spreading the love. I haven’t heard anything from him but with all the storms it may be a while.
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The last message i got from him was 11 days ago. Sent him some stuff and he was sending me a couple things too.
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Well… my envelope arrived today. Intercepted by customs, all I got was their letter & the “agriculture” tape to reseal the envelope 
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That sucks!
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Damn that sucks. US customs?
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Yeah. We each received a naughty no no letter but they took the seeds and “incinerated” them to protect us from some uhh danger yeah that’s it.
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Yep, same letter as @Strikingviking is describing
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