Ya thanks Olbrannon. It is good to know you’re seeing about the same thing.
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Day 76:
Sad post. That was a definite learning experience. I just watched a nutrient deficiency slowly almost kill this plant. I think I might be able to salvage a clone or two out of all the pruning I had to do.
Here is all that’s left that still looks alive. Let’s see if/how she recovers.
I wonder if I’m at huge risk of over watering now? I have the roots and stems of a much larger plant and the leaves of only a 3-4 week old now…
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Perlite helps add air to the soil. Lightens the soil. I’m far from an expert but I use like 20 to 30 percent perlite in all my soil mixes
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Thanks PoppaPuff. I did get it in my mix. I think about 35%… I’ve gone back and made so many edits. I started with one soil mix that mainly needed dolomite lime to become pretty decent…
I’ve got it down to this now. The plan is transplant into a 5 gallon fabric pot and move outdoor next weekend. Or maybe another week at the rate the weather HAS been - cold for May right now.
New Soil Mix:
4 tbs kelp meal
1 tbs blood meal
1 tbs bone meal
1 tbs dolomite lime
3 cups top soil
11 cups worm castings
18 cups peat
22 cups perlite
pH after tap water = about 6.7
I think that filled three two-gallon fabric pots.
Also, that 11 cups of worm castings and the perlite are the move expensive part. But we were just digging around in the backyard and figured out we have super rich black/brown clay soil that is literally full of earthworms. I’m going to use that top soil + some composted chicken manure from my neighbours free range laying hens. So I’m pretty excited to try the new soil and I now know I’m more or less on a 60 day timer before I will NEED additional nutrients…
EDIT:
I am basically working out an all organic way to make my own seedling, veg, flower soil mix. I suspect the kelp meal will prove more valuable in flowering being high in K… I think I will be able to do outdoor grows with 1 transplant at each stage so 3” square pot (clone/seedling), 2-3 gal fabric pot (veg), 5+ gal fabric pot (flower). All indoor until shortly before going outdoor and transplanting into the final/flower pot.
I also want to actually induce flowering so I can finish longer flowering cycle sativas earlier. I.e. manually/automate a 12 hour dark cycle in as early as june or july.
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The lower growth looks good. The damaged parts will not recover, so keep an eye on new growth. In that small of a pot, you probably ran out of nutrients. Transplanting into fresh soil, like you planned, would probably help.
This mix is way off, there is not enough nutrients for flowering in this mix. There is also too much perlite and no need for the top soil. Try this instead (total 3 gallons).
3 tbs kelp meal
3 tbs blood meal
6 tbs bone meal
6 tbs dolomite lime
11 cups worm castings
21 cups peat
16 cups perlite
Mix the worm castings, peat, perlite, and lime. Set aside a few cups of this mix for seedlings (two to three weeks). Transplant to one gallons, then three, and finally five a week or so before flowering.
Here are my girls using this mix and water only. They are roughly six weeks here.
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Thanks ReikoX. Sounds good man. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
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They look fantastic! what are you growing?
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Those are Jabba’s Stash by Bodhi.
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Jabbas Stash has some fire! I grew a pack of them before and found 2 keepers, but also 2 herms so be on the lookout!
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Day 80:
She is all but dead. I wanted to wait till this weekend and transplant straight into the ground… should have made the emergency transplant at the same time as
I pruned I think. What an abomination.
Well I learned A LOT in this 80 day interactive grow trial. Thank you all for the help. I love OG. Also, I apologize but, this might not even be over. I think i salvaged a Papaya clone. Come to think of it, this tiny cutting was probably a significant portion of the living plant when i cut it off… it’s looking good at 9 days in there. So hopefully I will have more successful posts soon.
I’ll get this clone in a 2 Gal fabric pot and straight outside. May 2-4/Victoria Day long weekend is ofcourse the time to do it up here in Southern Ontario, Canada.
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That’s not dead, you’ll be surprised how they can bounce back. I know people who ‘lollipop’ their plants so aggressively that they look like that on purpose!
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Thanks beacher. she’s outside now. I’m gonna get er in the ground.
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I got all my ingredients and worm castings are so expensive that i will have to change this mix by using this wheelbarrow of 1-year composted chicken manure, mixed with hay and sand, from my neighbours laying hens.
What is your advice on this? I realize you can’t really be sure but based on your estimation?
I can make one batch of your soil mix and then add X small shovels of this, perlite, peat, lime ect.
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I just realized I have enough for a triple batch of the soil. So I have enough to get my other plants into 5 gallons this weekend still on the @ReikoX brand organic potting soil. Probably need to start looking into producing my own EWCs for the future. The Papaya is gonna just get some mix of chicken manure straight in the ground though.
But I want to get this chicken manure in the next transplant… I’d love to trial it vs something else during the final 7+ gal transplant for flower.
Here’s ReikoX’s mix made x3. pH reading about 6.5.
EDIT:
Just had the pot out for two nights that got pretty cold and this is how it looks. Also just transplanted it into a hole dug and filled with a small wheel barrow of half and half chicken manure hay and peat with about the same ratios of bone meal, kelp meal, and dolomite lime as the soil mix.
And my first clone seems alive! I think it’s been less than two weeks and this small cutting seems alive and new growth starting. I pruned off lower two leaves. That being said I’m cautiously optimistic still since this was a small lower cutting with 2.5 nodes really… The new growth coming through may not even be due to roots established at this point eh? the other cutting I have certainly doesn’t look as healthy but again that could be due to what was going on with the mother at the time and it was just a lower quality location of cutting.
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Sorry for the late reply, composted chicken manure is good 
It can have a bit high nitrogen, but composting should take care of that. Start a worm bin, it’s as easy as a 20-gallon smart pot…
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Day 86:
Basically been in the ground, outside in temperatures as low as 5*C at night, a few warm days in the low 20s… but less than ideal weather. Yet it seems to be alive.
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Still kickin! She’ll take off when it gets a bit warmer… probably laying down some fat roots right now.
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beacher you’re the man! thanks for staying tuned in on this and all the positive reinforcement lol
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Lol no problem. You’ll start to see just how tough this plant can be!
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