Oni's 2nd grow. Lessons learned

Just LITFA for as long as you can. :smile: Then some more.

Imagine your seedline was a new goldfish in a bowl-- if you kept feeding & changing water too often it would probably die, right? :fish:

Consider getting some other indoor potted plants to fuss over like an orchid or a bonsai… :wink:

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I believe this to be excellent advice! Personally, I like to fuss over my african violets. If you can make them happy, they will give you mass amount of blooms!

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Totally excellent advice @cannabissequoia ! I’ve been putting my OCD tendencies to use on my xmas cactus.

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and it looks glorious this season, if I do say so myself!

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I just tilled the soil a bit and got as many chunks of chips out as I could. Peat, wood, roots, IDC. It was keeping the soil beneath moist still after this long even under UV light. It’s about half empty of water now. I tilled it after weighing it to find it too heavy for my liking. I got a decent amount of chips and chunks of various kinds and for some reason there was a glass shard in there I found. Powder maybe, but sliver of glass is a bad thing no matter what.

The soil was feeling very compacted as well, so I tilled the first 2 inches of soil and accidentally killed the oregano seedling. There was another that just popped up today too. It was a healthy green color. It will be missed.
All double seedlings have been moved in different directions and when the strongest one appears I’ll pull the vestigial twin.

I have wasted light, so I’ll find something else to grow in there as well. I have plenty of soil. I’ll bring in a gallon jug/mug and work with it until it’s completely free of chunks and find out what my consistency is and if I’m better off with a early transplant after fixing the soil and amending it with perlite if it’s too dense and not airy enough after getting wet.

Growth has been progression nicely, but that rate it was drying was not good with that many seedlings at once. Now I’m doing LITFA, but that mulch had to be taken care of. Nothing was drying at the pace I wanted.

I got some Diamond OG shatter from my GF and it just knocks out anxiety. I’m not concerned that I killed the oregano at all like I was expecting to guard for.

After tilling the soil I did notice a lot of sand looking particles. I’m thinking some are the DE and see could be from the sand content in the soil I worked from my outside garden to get some rocks and sand for amendments. I wound up just removing the rocks, but I’m thinking I should have kept them in. They were no bigger than a marble in size. Some were flatter, but took up the same space roughly. Anyways that’s my update for what’s going on. I had been busy all day walking around from this morning to this evening. I’m tired and I’m going to bed. Best way to start my LITFA program as I wait for the soil to dry now that the mulch is gone. Well it’s in a container in case it is needed later for any reason.

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Check out this test posted by @MomOnTheRun easy peasy! Loam/Sand/Clay

This will totally help!

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I know there’s a little clay mixed in the soil. When I processed my garden soil I noticed it was high clay, sand, and pebbles. It’s severely diluted with no more than a few cups of soil volume mixed into at least 4 cubic feet of soil up to 8 max. I’ll need to check my last grow when I posted what size bags I mixed in to be accurate.

Regardless I need to amend my soil and fix how compacted it gets. 2 weeks between watering is too long especially with a UV light shining on top it should be drying faster. Now that I tilled the topsoil and removed all mulch like pieces and the shard of glass let’s see how fast the soil dries.

Like the title says I’m still learning lessons. I want to learn from my mistakes and know better than to do certain things before the next grow when I have multiple plants going at once again. Plus it’ll help me a lot once I get a instinct for when to react and when to act. I’ve already found my niche with megacrop to the point where I can accurately measure it by eye and feel within 1g accuracy strangely. I still weigh it when I use it as I always have doubts regardless of how many times it happens

I was walking home while typing this.
I checked the plants and the soil has almost overnight dried up now LoL :man_facepalming:t2: whoever it was that kept telling me to remove the mulch I’m sorry for being a stubborn ass. That was a literal night and day difference.
Pics now to show what I’m talking about.

As you can see I wasn’t able to completely remove every single piece, but anything of size was removed.

Is it just me or does the diodes on my concobs seem to be wide angle?

IDK if that even matters or if it’s just glare not where the light is pointing, but if those are the beams of light from the diodes it appears to have a 120° angle from the diodes. I’ll have to see if I can’t find out what they used in the lights.

Also here’s a long forgotten to post pic of temp and humidity :sweat_smile: I took it just now to see if the room is any different than the apartment.


It is. It’s 74f in here and 72f in the room.

The plants look a little nitrogen starved RN. The pot is pretty light now, but that scratch test showed me it’s still not time to water yet.

Anyone have a foliar feed recipe? I don’t have a lot, but I do have molasses, Epsom salts, fox farm grow big, megacrop, and raw sugar. I doubt I’d need anything sugary to foliar feed, but I mentioned my available options in case I have no idea what I’m talking about.

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I did some research and went with 1.52g megacrop, 1.1g grow big, and 0.4g Epsom salts to 1 gallon/3.78 litres of water.
I tried to go 1/3 strength, but I wound up with closer to 1/2 strength. It’s almost clear and you can barely see the color of the nutrients. I cleaned out a eyeglass cleaner spray bottle and added 3 drops of soap to the bottle and added the mix to it and sprayed the tops and bottoms once I saw it was 75f in there and the stomata were open. It dried fast.

Did I foliar feed too early? I sprayed tops and bottoms both. When it’s time to water I have the mix in the fridge free from bad bacteria growth. I’ll take it out and let it reach room temperature before I water once the day they need water comes.

Maybe it’s just my hopeful imagination, but I swear they look better already. Foliar feeding doesn’t show that fast right?

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The seedlings look really healthy but I can’t understand why people put multiple plants into a single pot. As the roots grow through the medium they are bound to get tangled up so up potting/re potting is just gonna cause damage to the root zone and stunt the plants.

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If I’m not mistaken, I think the other plants are cover crop.

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My bad :rofl: I should have looked closer :+1:

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Cover crop also. The garlic is sulfur fixing and
releases natural fungicide in the soil. Old school natural fungus gnat repellant.
The cilantro is for aphids, spider mites, and a cover crop.

Both have compatible root systems with cannabis being useful for companion planting letting plants be a little hardier. I’m trying to nail the ratio of food that they want as once I get the right ratio they’ll all regulate the intake of nutrients each other receive sharing excess and with a larger amount of roots that aren’t fine hair roots the soil should be regulating itself to a good level once the microbes all get to the levels that the plants like.

I’m sure I skipped over a lot and may have mispoke a part or more, but overall I like old-school farming techniques that stood the test of time as my methods supplementing any care needed to accommodate the indoor conditions while they’re seedlings.
Also having to compensate for the lack of clover RN is not fun LoL. I’ll work on getting it soon. I may just transplant one from outside if it’s the right type if I can’t wait

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:rofl: that’s a lot of hard work. I’ll stick to my coco and mega crop. I’ll be watching your thread as you progress :+1:keep up the good work.

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It let’s me have some extra plants to fuss over too, but overall they want the same nutrients, just at different times. Once the cannabis plant reaches veg stage everything will be a lot easier as none of them want more food than the auto needs. And rn I just have to feed at foliar feed strength to keep nitrogen from getting locked out while the roots are growing.

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I’ll be gone for a day. I let the torch use the last of the butane that wasn’t enough to heat my banger to fill the room with as much extra co2 as I could provide as little as it is. I’ll let the plants adjust to the soil conditions changing a little with the mulch gone and when I come back I’ll update with the results if I managed to change anything or help at all. Even when the torch is low it never burns yellow or orange of any shade. Always a pure blue flame as low or weak as it is near the end, so I made sure my torch doesn’t ever incompletely combust my butane at all.

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I raised the pH of my water to 6.8 at least according to my pen. It’s not time yet, but I got 2 inches down and it’s almost pale for 1.75 inches. Maybe at one point today after they start drinking the soil will be ready to water again. Lights just came on.


I’m letting the water warm up either way before I water. That’ll take time and I’ll let them air out more while I wait for pH to stabilize. It’s barely climbing, but it’s at 6.82 rn. Another reason I’m waiting. If I have to pH down I’ll be able to do it before I water with it. After stirring I saw it go down and climb back up to 6.83. yep I’m waiting.

If I’m lucky it’ll stabilize at 6.86😅

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I can’t be this lucky :thinking:


It occasionally bumps down to 6.84, but raises to 6.86 and stays there

I used it to calibrate the pen while it’s there anyways
The number is jumping from 6.85-6.86 then sticks on 6.86

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I watered with 4oz water and waited a few minutes to water with the next 4oz and now I wait for the next watering and LITFA.

I got the water at a reasonable pH and now that they have water again I’ll see how they like the new watering schedule

I did the lift test after watering and it feels about the Same weight as before I watered. No runoff.

Here’s the most recent pics.

The soil looks a little moist rn, but 8oz shouldn’t be too much seeing as no runoff occurred

Oh yeah🤦🏻‍♂️ one of the mulch bits grew a root🤔 no idea what’s going on there

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I realized the soil was very low for some of the seedlings, so I added more topsoil after making sure all mulch was removed.

Now it’s LITFA time. The weight is feeling about right now. And the soil is keep them stable in place. One of the cilantro plants wanted to fall over after tilling. I almost pulled it as it was barely in the soil apparently. Now the half pint of soil or so will keep the plants from stressing on exposed roots.

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