Bingo we have a winner
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I almost bought property on spy rock road but realized after talking to the county and other local friends the guy was not legit.
I have friends that have been in covelo for the past 15 years or so and it is def a wild place , round valley is beautiful but the politics are exactly like the Wild West.
Pretty much once you are north of the Russian river you need to be very careful were you go hiking. I’ve come across what I can only describe as pre dug graves more then once and there is all kinds of super secret squirrel type shit going on. So many people go missing up there and are never found but then again i hear the Wild bore eat anything so it’s not shocking.
I used to be Sonoma county’s #1 power line inspector so I got all the sensitive, remote and difficult sections of line to inspect , places like the temple on king ridge road , the grove in monte rio ,all the wineries , all the cannabis grows friendly or not, the redwoods and the homes of people like M.Hart , hurt Hammond etc
I’m honestly surprised I made it out of that job alive, it was a normal thing to be escorted threw locked gates by armed masked guards on atvs and giant enduro bikes. I still loved living there and wish I had never left.
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I used to inspect a line west of Healdsburg one year I met this cool home owner and smoked some good weed with him the next year I walked past the burn mark on the driveway and still had to go inspect the line after nobody had been to the property sense, everything was still plugged in , solar panels charging and door blowing in the wind , it was sad and a little unnerving to say the least. This man was shot numerous times and burned in his vehicle according to all the neighbors.
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Tell me about the smell of boron?
Edit: if I’m being real, this thread is a bomb waiting to go off…
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It’s not necessary because they were cheap but because the science was flawed from the start. Heterozygosity, age of plants, and not being able to send in grams of fresh material all cause problems with sequencing cannabis. I’ll put up some screenshots and a link to the paper that explains this in depth
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This is an old topic but I was rereading on another site and found this.
Thought you might find it interesting.
Thanks for the feedback Gypsy.
You, proverbially, can be charged with a crime–Conspiracy. The word conspiracy literally means, together we breathe. Together Dave colluded or breathed a collective breath with Phylos, in order to acquire cultivars from YOUR site dude. Then he skirts from the limelight when the people call him and Phylos out. Why is he allowed to mod/scrub/clean his participation in the ongoings of duplicity by deleting thread contributions? More importantly, why do you, Gypsy, condone his behavior? You have ultimate admin power and can access on the server ALL the logs. Re-post without modifying what Dave has said over the years so he can’t lie anymore.
David Selezny/Watson, a Weather Underground conspirator (a TERRORIST organization!!!), was arrested in March of '86.
According to Mel Frank it was his 2nd arrest.
(The guy goes on to say…)
I can support EVERY claim I have made with references from congressional archives, FOIA dossiers, archived info graphics, archived zines from the late 60’s thru '89,other less complete zine collections through the 90s, and personal recorded interviews.
Gyps, what was inflammatory about telling everyone the MANY ways which they are being taken advantage of, by whom and how they are connected? Especially when one of the people keeps “cleaning up” the pertinent 411 so others can’t be informed en mass? (Not talking about any of my posts) The only body mass that should feel an adverse-inflamed reaction to the truth is the one that is inflicting the breach of trust to begin with, aka; the LIAR. I believe everyone thinks Phylos is a lying institution, right? Dave advocated for Phylos right? He has time and again been near the nucleus of controversy right? The time you spent in the PI should encourage you to be a facilitator of truth and fidelity and not a full canopy providing shade or an operational platform for these vile creatures to do Satan’s work; aka Lie and deceive for personal/private group, gain.
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This topic was brought up in another thread…Bump to keep things on topic.
It is, have you checked this out?
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That is a good post for sure, and I agree with him on the galaxy.
Remember, what they show us and what they have are probably 2 different things.
Thoughts on this?
Well the galaxy isn’t a thing anymore and was pretty poorly executed so I don’t think it would have held much weight, but who knows.
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I hear ya there, but they could provide proof without the galaxy, A paper trial would do the trick, point is they are seen as qualified to make that call.
It would be difficult to argue with them, especially if they have monsanto/syngenta funding the battle.
Just food for thought is all.
I love to smoke and think as you can tell…LOL
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But realistically they had ~5% of the genome. That’s not enough.
But did they now?
They were sent live seeds ect.
Did they tissue culture them?
They said from the start, publicly they intend to do breeding.
I really don’t beleive they just tossed all of those valualbe genetics and built the worlds largest from scratch a totally different way.
I guess anything is possible but I would lean towards the most likely, I mean it makes zero sense to do such a thing.
Keep in mind this company is known to lie.
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The Open Cannabis Project would link to the raw genomic data, which Phylos would post—with customers’ consent—onto the National Center for Biotechnology Information, a public database at the National Institutes of Health.
Has anyone ever seen this?
Does anyone know if this info is available to the public?
Holmes promised these plants will be “widely available and very affordable,” and in many cases they will be sold with an open source license—meaning other breeders can continue to work with them. (The company has teamed up with indoor ag venture Crop One to form a new business called Conception Nurseries, which will sell cannabis clones.)
Conception will also sell small-scale breeders’ starts, labeling them with the breeder’s name as well as the cultivar’s name, and will offer fair credit and royalties.
Phylos is Conception Nurseries
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I remember growing under a 150w HPS and worrying Id get busted.
Then upgrading to a 400w.
Then growing both indoor and outdoor.
…and still being a small grain of sand compared to people growing out a side of a mountain, or two.
An acre of weed seems surreal to some, seeing dozens of acres personally is pretty cool.
And those acres are minuscule compared to MSO’s and the brands that dominate multiple states and countries these days.
And yet we dont hear much of anything from the people hustling in multiple continents, jet-setting between festivals and business deals while their crews ship bulk seeds and hash all over the globe
And even those guys never got permission from UK/US governments/LEO to grow and study cannabis.
Fractals, man. Far out.
NIDA, Sam, Mowgli, Gypsy… they’re all on a first name basis. They may not work for or report to the same people, but they are all in the big leagues game. For Gypsy to butt against Sam’s wishes may mean more legal troubles, who knows. But Im sure his life is easier making Sam an overlord of a moderator.
An interesting data point is in looking at where some breeders have been breeding towards the past couple decades.
DJ Short spent a lot of effort on strains that would allow for perpetual harvesting, theoretically making Rec farming indoors more efficient - no need to replant, just let the plants just keep growing out new fresh buds to harvest every couple weeks. Unfortunately, no states allow for constant harvest in their compliancy, some states even requiring a plant to be entirely harvested on one date, not even allowing for an extra few days to let the lowers finish up after harvesting the main colas.
Many breeders chased 7-week projects thinking with the same old school black market mentality of beating the police or the mold by harvesting early. But Rec is more efficient growing in a hoop and harvesting in Oct-Dec than harvesting Aug/Sept.
Then look at Sam’s projects. Breeding single-cannabinoid plants to both conform to pharmaceutical canna rollout while also allowing the sidestepping of some overbearing regulations such as THC limits or even taxes.
As far as Phylos, I dont think they’d have to sequence the whole genome to achieve their goal.
Their project for the galaxy and testing everyone’s genetics was a sales pitch, not the final goal. They state in the business plan i posted above that they will be breeding and selling novel strains. They dont need to sequence the entirety of everyone’s genetics - they just need to sequence enough to show a commonality between your Super Cloud Eater and Sam’s Sk/Hz/Cali-o/etc.
I know Phylos is currently charging 20% to farms for growing out Phylos’ genetics right now. Thats quite profitable.
And if I go to the grocery store to get a pound of veggies or fruit, its a dollar or two, for a whole pound. Yet those farms bought those seeds from an MSO who spent millions to breed those seeds and keep them exclusive.
Weed is only still just becoming legal where it can be backed by banks, insurance, etc. We haven’t yet seen the rollout of Monsanto-style market dominance by a select few corporations.
I imagine interstate trade will open around 2025, international around 2028. That’s when we’ll see patents getting enforced and the real agendas and alliances will be revealed.
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It was dissolved 2019. They were involved with the Phylos kerfuffle.
Don’t know if the their sequencing databases were fully published but I have seen other sources of published sequence data. OCP provides a site where they keep the data but accessing it is not clear. Details here:
Here are the details regarding the closure of the project:
From what I recall, there is another east coast based company that had been contributing datasets to public. They are around but hit and miss.
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I think we’re giving phylos a bit too much credit. They were cheapskates that made a worthless database under the guise of science. You guys really think anything that same company can produce is going to be worth while?
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That’s of course a possibility
Or, they were doing corporate science under the guise of offering a worthless database.
The effort they went through to revamp their entire galaxy a couple times to manufacture genetic narratives shows what they were really doing.
The first Galaxy was somewhat accurate. Then it got revamped and all of a sudden connections that were there, weren’t, and connections that weren’t there, were. Such as some novel landraces first being reported as novel and unique, then after the update the Galaxy says they are related to Skunk or Haze.
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The fact you could send in a cut and her offspring and them show up as completely unrelated plants, showed what they were really doing.
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The Phylos investor calls, where they were laying out their actual long-term plans, provided concerning details that did not match their public messaging. The videos were on-line some time ago. Don’t know if those are still around.
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