Hi bruds,
I have a few questions for pollen chuckers:
I have some photoperiod bags seeds and some bagseed autos. The autos were inbred for 3 gens already so I wanted to try and bring some hybrid vigor to both of them (they are both fast and nice color, yield, tast smell etc)
I would eventually want a full auto, so how can I go about this:
-fem auto x male photo
-fem photo x male auto
Make 2 separate lines and breed the few autos that sprout in the f2s 
?
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@AzSeaindooin420 could you share your magical punnet square explanation here?
I think itâs very helpful for budding autoflower breeders
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My generic understanding is if you cross an auto with a photo, itâs basically a photo. I think youâd have to do auto x photo, grow out that progeny and cross it to the auto, grow THAT out & cross it to the auto again, and do that potentially a couple more times before the resulting progeny is truly âday neutralâ . Iâm basing this off a conversation I had with an auto breeder a while back, asking âhow do you get auto versions of strainsâ and that was his response for the most part.
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Instead of doing the whole write up again hereâs the link to my detailed explanation of it
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Hmm, maybe I should give this Bubblegum pollen a go then. Corey sent me some last year and I never used it because I was unsure if it came from an auto or photo, guess I can just toss it on some plants and not stress too much heh.
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Still one more q : male photo or male auto?
Or do both separately
thx
Have a backup plan in case the pollen has gone âoffâ.
Pollen typically will not last a year.
Cheers
G
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I have read that auto pollen lasts even less time than photo
Damn, well I hope its still good since its been in the freezer. We shall see I guess heh.
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Freezer is the best bet.
I was looking for a pollen preservation document I have ⌠but canât find at the moment⌠
Cheers
G
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That would be very interesting @Gpaw
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so true. got some goods in the freezer myself⌠when some one get this far that is great! on both getting and storing pollen. just for anyone doing this for first time. let the pollen reach room temp before opening when removing from the freezer. if you do not the frozen pollen will condensate moisture from the air on itself just like a glass of ice water does. this will render the pollen useless. pollen and water are not a mix you want when breeding⌠good luck. good thread. learn on enjoy the grow. @Fanetilimanu âŚ
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Ha!!
Found it⌠Stoner filing system⌠
Development_and_Optimization_of_a_Germination_Assa.pdf (3.8 MB)
Bonus:
pollen storage.pdf (124.7 KB)
Cheers
G
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Thanks @Gpaw Iâll get stuck inđ
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Not an expert but I was recently told once something was âfeminizedâ, introducing male genetics back into the pool will cause herms for a few generations. True or false? May be something he has overlooked. But again, Iâm just soaking up all the info I can myself.
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speaking in terms of genetics (the actual parts of the code) it shouldnât be a thing. But with gene expression things get wacky when you start talking about activation events. Could hypothetically the act of feminizing be a methylation event for DNA involved with intersex traits? Who knows? it has never been studied in a academic setting with cannabis that I can find. Would I worry about it? not anymore than any other test cross. Anything can herm on you if you are making a new cross the first time.
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DJ Short cautioned against it.
On the other hand, Iâve seen a breeding program that was using only femalesâŚ
Basically, I saw an opportunity to test that hypothesis⌠
and itâs an out-cross âŚ
I guess thatâs why they call them testers?
Cheers
G
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Ah ok. So youâve done this before? Itâs just been stuck in my mind and probably will be until someone debunks it lol
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Itâs my first âkick at the canâ⌠
I think it went well, Iâm really looking forward to exploring these beans.
Cheers
G