Security Question: Why is "system" a member of some of my private group chat messages?

I am spot on with my manager angle. Ever hear Winston Churchill talk about being a leader? No, history does. Leaders don’t brag that they are a leader, it shows in their actions. Every thread you are on lately, you point it out. I simply pointed out, nobody is following. To be honest they don’t care what you think either. If you don’t know how to explain something, don’t try.

I’m having a discussion with @monkeyman. Exchanging ideas and asking questions related to the topic of this thread. Not sure why you are so nasty towards me and really don’t care, so why don’t you practice what you preach and stop attacking me.

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The private group message from @Hugh_Glass regarding payment for the ill-fated Tony Green RIL group buy does NOT have the aforementioned “system” user, which you can imagine had a lot of people and posts, however other private messages with groups not that large, or as many messages, seem to have that immovable visible “system” member included.

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people when you post on anothers server #root actually exists and ‘admin’ groups. I don’t understand the worry here since #root can look any damn thing anywhere anyway.

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You don’t care, but I’m the nasty one? I simply pointed out a completely false noun usage. That’s all. How is correcting grammar an attack?

By the way, in your last sentence you missed a comma, before the coordinating conjunction. Dang, I’m attacking again. :joy:

I would suggest changing system for this more friendly one … frech|nullxnull

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Actually, I just checked my email. It is in mine (the TG pm)

I don’t think I’m telling anyone anything that isn’t readily available information if you do a little research, but…

With the Discourse platform, admin(s), and anyone to whom they give the privilege, are able to see anything posted anywhere. They don’t need a “System” bot to do it.

There are discussions among Discourse sys admin’s around the subject of the ethics of peeking into PM’s. The consensus seems to be to deny it’s a capability or that it ever happens, and - of course - to limit who has this power. That last part is important, of course, when you consider that someone who’s even slightly vindictive might have access to your PM’s.

There are some very good reasons for an admin to have access to PM’s. So if everyone conducts themselves in a PM the exact same way as they would in an open thread, there is nothing to be concerned about. For sharing extremely personal information, I would suggest you use privnote.com to pass along that communique.

Oh, and Discourse has logs, so deleting/editing isn’t always what it seems. But what do I know?! As I’ve freely admitted, I know enough about Discourse to embarrass myself - which I probably just did.

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here is a screengrab of mine, perhaps it was a different msg? I blocked out all of the member info, but the system was not one of the members of that group msg

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I’m not savvy enough to screenshot my actual emails and stuff, but if you look in your email at the last post by Holy Angel in the pm it has system as the first email recipient.

Win logo + shift + s

drag the box out and clip to the clipboard to outline and snip a part of your screen

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It is, though…

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Here is a screenshot from my personal emails. Thanks @Herbie It corresponds to the TG pm

Hold on it didn’t black out everyone’s names… Trying again. I’m not good at this stuff. Anyway check your actual email that informed you there was a group message in the meantime. It is there.

The response is that it is innocuous and part of the housekeeping system. Further concern as to it’s role within the software can be researched. In fact, that’s a great way to learn and teach others about what you find. Bring a specific technical concern about ‘system’ from there, provide the reference it to the documented feature set, and I/we will take a look. Otherwise, innocuous.

No one ‘owes’ anyone a dissertation each time someone has a concern. It has been sufficiently answered.

Partially addressed in the prior post. Setting the tone does go beyond just the leaders, staff, and the admin. The community has a large role in that. What the staff does have, though, are the tools to set and adjust that path and will make incremental adjustments as needed.

This following is not specific to this thread or an individual but rather is meant to address a number of recent issues across a variety of threads.

Although, we do answer what we can when we can for reasonable requests. If you feel the answer is not sufficient, do some legwork. Find something that is concerning, dig into the documentation to learn about it, show us the results indicating an issue. If there is mutual concern identified, we’ll take a look. Demanding more of an answer because the answer provided is not sufficient to ‘you’ is not ‘us’ being irrational or childish.

Further, again generalities. Attacking or throwing insults at the leaders, the staff, or the admin is not considered acceptable. Even more so when combined with baiting, throwing stones, ignoring guidance, and doing so with persistence. Keep the above in mind when posting as we move forward. Thank you.

This has been sufficiently answered at this point.

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