Upstates Oxacan x chocolate rain
Some plants outside getting the rays.
All well. Some pre flower going on.!
Have a nice day
P J
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Very nice! I see the tall and short phenotypes represented
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Ye there are two phenos there .
Tell you what ā¦they are real healthy plantsā¦Iām observing the growth, pretty impressive.
In a way I seem to be the Guinea pig in this grow, as Paps said.
Well all I can report is ā¦so far so goodā¦
P J
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They sure are happy and healthy
The cr mom was a big girl lol
Beautiful work
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2nd pic down is a tall stretchy pheno I think. Looks like Silversides leaves
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The only cross with the Oaxaca I ended up with (minus males) was to a lemon Thai and it looks just like that. I thought they would bring more sativa look, but no. Iām not good with knowing about breeding and understanding dominant and recessive traits. I had two others that turned out to be male so I dumped them for now.
I finally have Chocolate Rain thanks to @saxo, and @Islayhearts, and I did get that tribute from @Zanzibar with Choco Rain/Amnesia. I want to get to them both as fast as I can because I never could get the seeds after they sold out from @eskobar and Sannie, and Iāve still never grown any of the CR or Amnee. 
Oh man, Iād like to run those Chucyās Bride again. @BeachBud made some f3ās and the last plant I grew was so cool. Very photogenic plus good tasty smoke and high yield. I see BB has an account, is he around here? Iāve been thinking about him a lot and was intending to email him. Hope he ends up over here with the rest of us nuts! 
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Soā¦ Whatās this chocolate rain yāall speak of? Thanks
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Chocolate Rain by Eskobar Seeds is a flavorful mashup of exceptional genetic stock from two exceptional breeders. An indica-dominant hybrid cross of DNA Geneticsā Chocolope and DJ Shortās Cocoa Kush, this twice-deep chocolate pairing emits a bittersweet cocoa aroma with touches of blueberry and floral Kush notes on the finish. The strainās effects are balanced, offering happy, relaxing mental and physical effects that arenāt overwhelming. Chocolate Rain has a decent yield and an average 9 to 10 week flowering period.
Which has been crossed with upstateās Oxacanā¦I believe this is the first cross?
Thatās all I know ā¦genetics or not they are fine looking young specimens.
P J
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Oooh! Yeah buddy thatās gonna be really nice 
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Thanks for the heads up although Iām well to aware of this.
I just had to plant 3 new autos because I drowned 3 a week ago in the plugs. I donāt like them I have great luck with the rapid rooters though.
Plus 2 Oaxacan outside in solos
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hmm,didnĀ“t know BB has an account here too. looks like,he didnĀ“t post much yet.
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@Upstate so the ācoyacanā is a true F1 hybrid those are some nice looking buds
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@drgreensleeves I donāt know what youād call it. I inbred my Coyote for 20 years and combined it with another strain called Candy that I had almost 30 years.
I grew my strains so many years, after combining them I separated them again in just one generation.,knowing exactly which plants to use. I sent the Coyote pheno to @George, who then was guided by the universe( accidental pollination lol)to pollinate Coyote (Candy)with Oaxacan = Coyacan
All I know is that my uncles 75 Afghan is heavily represented in the offspring. He made seeds from 1975-1998 and I made seed 1998-2019, So itās a
very old ibl. ( and my cousins have grown one lineage from 2017- present) The Afghan structure is very dominant, it appears. The Afghan was selected towards a Sativa high and mold resistance ( anyone surprised?) by me. When I got it, until 2009-11 or so, there were KO phenos, but they are rare now. I have some older seeds that probably still have a good portion of ko phenos. Iāll break them out someday.
Itās going to be awesome mixed with Sativas to make them smaller without ruining or effecting the high. Thatās in the future, but George gave me a glimpse of what will be. Iām going to pop 3 seeds from him this upcoming moon.
@George still an Uppity high after curing? Hash taste?
@420noob looking good! You are in for a treat! What size plants are you looking to harvest?
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Itās definitely one of the first being grown. OST was the first. That received very high marks from both growers. Thereās some OaxacaĆ Peshawar being grown, And iāve made twenty or thirty hybrids with Oaxaca too, just havenāt grown them yet.
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Chocoaxacan! heh, heh. Raspberry turpentine catpiss! 
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i am ok with this statement, however, dont take this 5 generations heavy bottlenecked Jamaican (i think they took one male and one Female each generation) as a rule of thumb for any Heirloom. This line was also held in a Jamaican Garden with few individuals for many yearsā¦
I say the same, bottlenecking, or growing in foreign enviroment can make the high LESS FRESH, LESS BRILLIANT, LESS BRIGHT. And with it less powerfull.
And the alternative of growing 2023 Landrace collected at origin for me had a hectic, agressive, and also weak effect (if smoked couple times it became weak).
I personally preffere seldon bottlenecked 70s collected Landrace i think.
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The Lambsbread is f7-f9 I think. Iām at f11 if that is true. I agree in general that they donāt have to lose their magic but itās pretty common. Out crossing produces potency. Inbreeding reduces it. Not that it gets rid of it, just that it becomes less common. If I make an f1, many of the plants that generation will have potency. But think of old timerās haze. Great in a hybrid but not super potent alone anymore. Thereās always exceptions and sometimes breeders get lucky and pick the right plants every time. I think this is why landraces topped out at about eleven percent thc on averageā¦while hybrids go above 30%
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Itās the first time that my noob skills reward me with something really interesting 
, Iām willing to see it freely grow outside under your guidance, now itās more cured and I will give it a try tonight and tell you, thanks for sharing ā¦ 
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reduced potency has nothing to do with inbreedingā¦ but with inbreeding DEPRESSION.
Dont forget that inbreeding Depression isnt a law that applies to inbreeding always. It has nothing to do with itā¦ The depression comes from small numbers of parents usedā¦
Im aslo unshure about your THC measurements. I said unshureā¦ Look, how many people breed old Thai Strains, the closest to the real deal on OG ? one person? two ? zero?
So, how can you compare one, two or even zero attemts to 10000000 million Hybrid-Attemts in gaining a high number on a paper.
On the other hand probably hybridisation can lead to stupid rises of a single traitā¦wich means few to most of conaisseurs on OG. But thats mostly specualtionā¦
?? does it ? anyone compared it?
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I think an important question is, how many people are growing 100-200 of the landrace lines to select for potency? It seems most hobbyist donāt go above 12 for one particular line.
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