That’s how I use most of my likes. If I read something I think is helpful for myself or others, if I see a picture I like, or if I see a member being particularly kind and nice I enjoy “liking” that comment to show my support. So others can also see I show support for that comment or idea.
Sometimes nothing needs to be said other than a “digital head nod in agreement” a “like”. They’re a bit like digital applause to me. I still hope to see a dislike button so I can show my disapproval for things said or done when I think engaging in verbal critique would only create more unnecessary back and forth argumentative debates. A way for members to express dislike without perpetuating a debate, so that we can instead focus on conversation and dialogue. Sometimes members acting in poor taste I think would act more appropriately, more OG like, if there was a way to show disapproval without engaging in debate of which is attention I think they are seeking out.
Quiet disapproval. I want to be able to do that. I’ve contemplated using the skunk emoji but twofold I don’t want to offend the awesome @Hashpants nor do I want to “reward” comments I disapprove of with a like in the shape of a skunk emoji. It doesn’t even have to be linked to the karma/pips but I don’t think it would be a bad idea to do so.
I’ve noticed some using the skunk icon for what I assume to be disapproval, so I think others would appreciate the option to dislike posts to show they don’t support a particular comment without needing to engage in an argument. When someone is acting a fool I think it’s important we can point it out without engaging with that antagonistic mode of behavior. Many blessings and much love
A dislike emoji would be antagonistc in and of itself, so one would be engaging when using it. It would just be more passive-aggressive. I do realize folks seem to want it but I still feel that would be the effect.
The gratitude i hold for this safe space that @LemonadeJoe and many others have blessed us with has no limits. A huge thank you goes out to all those involved with keeping backend of this magnificent machine running smoothly so we can all share our obsession with the plant and many other things in this space.
To be honest i have not read through this thread in its entirety so if i recommend something said before mybad not tryin to steal anyones thunder lol.
A couple of ideas bubble to the surface on the topic of raising support for the site.
Those of us with or without ties to people who have cannabis related podcasts are encouraged to reach out to said folks / organizations etc and humbly ask for a plug, surely we could organize a small batch of seeds that could be raffled off through the podcast half could go to overgrow.com and half to the foundation of the podcast/ organizations choosing.
I can think of 2 podcasts off the top of my head that seem genuine in there love for the plant and pretty humble folks while i dont know either personally maybe someone here does.
Tad Hussy’s, Cannabis Cultivation & Science Podcast
Jordan river’s Growcast Podcast
I like also the idea of a lower dollar amount support option as well as a option to mail in cash donations.
Totally disagree. I liken it to when I’m driving. I used to flip people off but now I just do a simple thumbs down. It shows my disapproval without being inciting. If a digital thumbs down seems antagonistic to someone perhaps they better reflect on their actions. It’s basically shining light onto darkness.
I could easily engage and try to have a conversation but someone acting a fool will likely double down and it’s quickly a debate not a discussion, I’ve experienced it many times on the forum and would much rather be able to show my disapproval for other members to see without engaging with someone already acting a fool. If they’re being down voted they will start to act accordingly I think. Shame is something humans respond to. It doesn’t have to be verbalized and I don’t think it deserves that attention anyways.
I don’t think it’s antagonistic to point out when someone is being rude, or otherwise disruptive. Engaging with that is a pretty predictable outcome in my opinion. Thumbs down em, don’t engage. Linked to their prescious pips even better. Many blessings and much love
Its still engaging but without having to actually stand up and say something. But I get it, people want to show their negative disapproval and just keep walking. To each their own. I personally dont care one way or another.
Personally, I liked how it was with just the one reaction option of either it or just move on. Or, if you disagreed strongly enough to then enter into a (hopefully constructive) discourse about it.
It had a “if you’ve got nothing nice to say then say nothing at all” feel to it that IMHO played in well with the OG vibe and removed the potential for the reflex combativeness we see on some of the other high profile cannabis forums.
In my opinion, members here should know what’s proper decorum or not. Showing disapproval should be enough. I don’t particularly enjoy engaging with others I find rude or distasteful. Why do I have to say something to show disapproval? A thumbs down in real world scenarios works wonders. Verbalizing ones disapproval often leads to argumentative commentary.
In my opinion the forum and topics don’t really have space for those off topic argumentative commentary. Anything off topic is off topic including verbalizing disapproval. It will lead to others sharing their opinions and such, and before we know it the thread has turned into something entirely different.
When instead, a handful of dislikes could achieve the same outcome of pointing out someone’s misconduct. Especially if linked to their prescious pips. Many blessings and much love
How is that worse ? Every time I see people call something out , it seems like most people has a problem with it and start hitting the report button because it’s “negative”
So you’re saying it’s encouraged to speak your negative thoughts versus responding with an emoji ?
If enough members show disapproval, and especially if the disapproval is linked to permissions or website privileges I think it would in turn have an effect on the amount of negative or disruptive commentary that happens here from time to time.
Shame is a powerful tool. To be able to do so without actively engaging would be great. Without taking threads further off topic would be even better. When responding someone typically wants the last word. Leaving a dislike and keeping it moving can be quite valuable I think.
As it stands, the only way to show disapproval is to say something. I’d rather be able to do so without taking a topic further off topic. It could be that I’m more of a lurker of threads than active poster. Also, why even have likes without the relevance of dislikes to even the scales? Without a dislike a like really has no meaning. It could easily be said then, why even have likes when members could instead type a response with their words? Well then we would have threads that are massively filled with comments “I like that” when instead we see how well a digital heart works.
Many blessings and much love
Assholes tend to burn themselves out and run out of latitude pretty fast on their own.
You can’t teach manners.
Right now your best option is to mute them and move on. Why even engage at all? I’ll occasionally say something cold if I get annoyed but in the end it’s rarely worth it.
My mom might be able to effectively shame me. Maybe.
A rando on the internet with some negative emoji? Not so much.
Who said it was worse? All I said was a negative emoji is still engaging, just passive-aggressively. Folks act like someone wont see the negative emoji and associate that with the person being negativre towards them the same as they would with words. Anyway, as I stated before, I dont really care. Folks want a passive aggressive way to show their disapproval towards others, not really my style but to each their own.
So not just a way to show disapproval but also a way for users to penalize each other?
Exactly, we can’t teach manners and most here are adults that are set in their ways.
Why advocate verbal critique to these types? The thumbs down, especially if linked to their prescious pips, shows disapproval without having to engage with someone who most likely isn’t going to be receptive of a discussion about why their actions are offensive in the first place.
You bring up a perfect example, your mom might be able to shame you. So too are humans shamed by their peers. A handful of dislikes on a post where no members give the time of day to such negativity is more powerful in my opinion than a handful of members voicing their opinion. Ego often gets in the way of letting ourselves feel shame. When it’s quiet disapproval and avoidance it’s more impacting.
You’re example of a mother and a child. When a child is acting out, is it better to engage with their hostility in the heat of the moment or to show disapproval, forego attention that’s being sought, and let them simmer down?
I think it’s the latter. Unfortunately on the forum we don’t really have a space to air these types of differences where it doesn’t take threads off topic. Perhaps that’s the benefit of something like the Tank that used to be on the old Overgrow. Maybe if we have a dedicated space to voice concerns like these we have without feeling like it’s taking threads off topic it would help? I’m down to verbalize my critique of others, but don’t want to do so at the expense of someone else’s thread. One comment turns into two, more members start replying, eventually the thread is off topic. So I don’t voice those concerns of mine usually, and I think that’s the same for many other members. Many blessings and much love
No, you must continue to verbalize your disagreement. Agreeing to disagree would be as if your simply click a thumbs down, would it not be? Many blessings and much love
Well look, you and I are disagreeing in a reasonable fashion and talking it out. This is much more useful than me simply putting a dislike emoji on something you say that I disagree with.
I’d argue that bad actors out themselves and don’t really need my help to be exposed.
it or just move on. Or, if you disagreed strongly enough to then enter into a (hopefully constructive) discourse about it.