What is causing this? Outdoors

These are my dads plants. This plant was doing this wrinkle/margin curling. Never seen anything like it. None of the other strains have this.

Also seeing this milky white residue on leaves. Doesnt look like PM. Almost like a cocoon webbing but its not webbing. Like this opaque milky residue.

Here are the trouble leaves and plants as a whole. There was always this wrinkling but now theres this discoloration and holes where the discoloration is.

I told him a month ago that this plant doesnt look right and looks like russett mites and to cull it before it spreads to other plants. Also he has 6 plants in a 3x5 area and all he was doing is creating an area ripe for disease but he likes to learn his own mistakes.

Well I was partially right in that it is a troubled but it doesnt appear to be spreading to others. But it is not recovering. Can anyone tell me what this may be so i can convince him to trash the plant. He could definitely use the room for the rest of his plants to spread out but hes thick headed old man.

He has finally listened to me indoors thank god.

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Bad case of mites ? or some other insects start spraying after the sun goes down someone will be along to help you shortly .

Looks like mites… and maybe magnesium deficiency :thinking:

It’s definitely bugs

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Agree, could be caterpillars, check this out … :sunglasses:

It is either mites or whiteflies. I’m not sure of the best treatment tho. I would hit them tonight with Neem oil

Neem oil or captain jacks after the sun dies down in evening . They will definatly spread if you don’t get then under control soon .

Whats the wrinkling cause?

Neem won’t do jack! It’s only a preventive that never works either. Outdoors I swear by spinosad in veg. Kills spider mites, aphids, white fly larvae, basically every crawler but caterpillars. It doesn’t look like pillar damage to me. They put huge holes and basically start shearing the leaves, pillar damage looks same as slugs and snails. That looks like some sort of mites to me.

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You use spinosad outdoors? Heard its not good for bees.

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Yep. I don’t use it often, but so far so good. Still have a ton of bees out there. Bees don’t really have interest in my cannabis either

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@SquirtleSquad for clarification. I only use it for my cannabis out there. I don’t use any pesticides on the rest of my garden.

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I’ve never seen mites or caterpillars do damage like that. It’s just too evenly damaged between the veins to be either. Looks more like a severe boron deficiency. That goes necrotic like that between the veins then cracks and makes holes. Generally caused by high pH locking out micronutrients but could just be no boron. 20 Mule Team Borax washing soda or boric acid from the drugstore fixes it up if that’s what it is. Worked for me once.

:peace:

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My guess is broad or russet mites, are your leaves shiny and waxy looking?

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Yes. All the other plants look fine

Sounds like broad mites to me, that ‘gloss’ on the leaves doesn’t look natural

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Never saw either mites making those holes, but making a search I found this, can you trim a leaf and look behind with a scope? :sunglasses: