I’ll do fems but I definitely prefer regular for breeding and carrying on genetics, archiving them and knowing the line is as pure as possible. Selfing is cool and I’ve gotten some killer fem plants but they don’t breed well, had a few that seemed to be sterile and wonky genetics in my experience. When I used to make fems it became much less fun and I love the process of crossing and seeing what it creates.
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Dude, very cool. Thanks
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Is this a solid choice as well? I feel proud that I got through it as just some wannabe breeder, so please say yes… 
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I’ve grown some land race, and I just spread a bunch of rasoli and Kerala around. One of my several grow areas/tents. I’m constantly popping seeds.
Hell, I’m sifting through dozens of auto males at the moment and considering about I’m going ti make with my ABC hybrid that I both love and hate. I’m weird, I like seeing variety, growing and experimenting. I came from coral farming and coral science, this plant stuff is easy and fun so I like to push the limits and blaze a trail if I can.
Here’s some of my boys that were transplanted, then given tap water and sent outside on nearly freezing rain.
And why regs? Because the boys are cool too! I’m staring at this right now, and it makes me happy
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Have not read it nor am I a breeder, but I’ve seen it cited in multiple papers and academic courses. It seems to be quite a reference too so I’d say you’re good if you went through it 
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obsolutely it is quite a detailed book and well explained/illustrated.
VG
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In some cases, this is true. In most cases, the most serious charge comes from having “grandpa’s shotgun” in the closet while in possession of a controlled substance. Then they pile the rest of the charges on.
Regardless of what some states do, and others don’t, it’s up to the individual to decide what’s worth the risk and what isn’t. One of our state politicians made it crystal clear that state police are required to uphold federal law. So, if the state police are involved in a case, you’re potentially looking at federal charges as well.
I’m not trying to be a downer, but I think it’s reckless to suggest that people that follow their state law are doing so unnecessarily.
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This statement betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of genetics. If a breeder selects a ‘random’ male then its pollen chucking, not breeding with a purpose.
Reversing a female is not hard, the vast bulk of females will reverse from one or two applications of STS, and even difficult ones are mostly able to be reversed with cobalt.
When you simply reverse an elite cut, you are still causing segregation of your genetics, so for this reason the progeny won’t be copies of the original unless you grow lots and select for it. It’s not the use of males or reversed females where the work lies; it’s in the selection further down the track. The fact is that most seed companies sell fems because they are easier than trying to breed properly and faster to turn a profit.
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The Male cannabis plant contains more genetic data than females do they have a bigger genetic data gamete to say males are not an important part of the equation is quite sophomoric and nonsense ,go check out Mohan Rom and his male cannabis White paper studies its all been published since the early eighties.go and read up on chicken breeding males have more gamete storage almost same principle.The whole attitude its all about elite females is one of the reasons were in the mess we have today boring High THC cultivars with no nuance all Monotone that peter out in an hour or sometimes less with bottlenecked genetics.Keep taking Females and reversing them and tossing them to other female cultivars of last years high times cup winner to the next years that all have the same parents over and over again without eventually diversifying and recombining the Genetic data and refreshing the gene pool and eventually all roads will lead to rome.Thats a good way to accommodate a potential Founders Syndrome.We did it with corn in the 1930s and almost destroyed our whole Corn seed stock if they didnt catch it quick enough.Information is all there in Cornell University white paper studies
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Bingo, I completely agree. It’s like they began with one or two tracks, they then cut and pasted and copied them in every conceivable order, so that now the result is just the same grey goo boring dispensary weed. Cannabis has evolved over millions of years to be an obligate outcrosser, there is a reason.
Also by just using half of the available gene pool you are basically condemning cannabis to being a frozen genome with no more evolutionary potential. No more new combinations, just rehashing of the stuff that already exists.
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This is the whole reason why the preservation and sharing of landrace Cultivars is so much more important.Theres things out there that potentially can be the true of the brightest shining Stars and Thier slowly being dutched one plant at a time.They not know what they do.We can be the Stewards of something far much more than ourselves
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Like all questions about sexuality preferences, there’s no “answer” that will make the other side understand. Other than it feels good, and I enjoy it. You just have to let the world do as it does, and you do you. It’s only kinky the first time. Enjoy your lives.
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That’s gonna vary state to state. Unfortunately some it’s a felony to grow anything over the (insanely low) legal limit. Stupid but true.
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You’re stimulating buddy, it’s cool.
The subject of inbreeding depression with cannabis is a hot and heated one. I had some double digits IBLs under the belt both with hemp and cannabis, so my scepticism is growing more each year now on this consideration. And in the new era marketing, the more “one shot” is the catalog, the more radical is the argument against stabilized lines in general ^^ That’s for the personal POV.
It’s popular in our scene (like the “million seed project”) but the population size isn’t a dominant factor over all others. The depth of breeding is far more a leverage for the lifespan of the line. If you brute force the genotype on the baddest genetic material, or let anything reproduce and be deleterious, yeah … within 3 gens you can lost a soul. But it’s not epigenetic at all, it’s a strategic consequence before everything.
And if the line is fucked by lack of interest/cares, 10 or 1000 seeds will not mechanically change much the genetic health of the line.
It’s what i do for all my repros, i clean them in general three generation isolated in lines for the failsafe. And most of the time now (sic), it “depressurize” more the genotype from herms, variegations and mutants … than the reverse ^^ That’s the goal anyway.
The rules of reversal practices are not universal with cannabis, it’s a specific artificial context with its own dynamics.
I totally agree, unique pairings is the better insurance for the grade of the work at long term.
Now don’t get me started on preservation ^^, it’s now a word used for all and nothing. To really preserve a strain, you have to map almost all categories of phenotypes and it can’t happens in one season and/or one generation … we are talking more about the sight of a decade. Which imply enough knowledge on dominances to don’t fuck up the line before it sit on an artificial balance (the preservation counteracting the unstoppable acclimatization).
I can’t ignore this ^^ I call it the syndrome of the Sissa’s chess board.
If you pay attention to the sentence, you will realize that it’s the same case that Sissa : when the scale is not yet exponential, it look good. But at each generation you realize that it’s a signature for an impossible hell, to understand finally that you need the superficy of a nation to close a project ^^
My counter-argument : If you don’t want to have the impression to depend on gods for your work, just map it with accuracy. It avoid to exponentially launch more lines each generations … until it reach an irrational Sissa’s number.
I think you’re self-limiting your chances in targeting the wrong threats with the wrong leverages. If your rule of thumb (example) is no more than two or three inbred generations, it’s way too fast to experience any genetic depression in the strict sense of the term.
Multiple males, when the line is in deleterious mode (because a bad pairing, because just randomly maintained, because bad maintenance, because mutations are drifting the lines to adapt etc …) only accelerate the drift. The context determine everything in this equation.
It’s not a mechanical insurance at all buddy, take care. Better to light up the battlefield (with your momentum on the line) so you dodge the various mines. Instead launching the troup blindfolded with the hope that one will survive ^^ Minute-mens breeding is cocky but it’s not the best strategy to evolve with the line imho.
Not sure on this, still thinking about this question. In grow logs at least it’s rare now to look at something stable, even on expensive offers. There is enough Aficionado’s repros now to see that the price is not correlated with the stability but more with the ingredients of the line.
I don’t have an opinion yet, but i don’t think people now are searching the same thing than 30 years ago. They hunt as fuck this period of time, but the consistency of a work look like secondary now.
I agree and understand, but i think that the word compromise is better than conflict. A conflict imply some sort of regularity in the effects, which is not really the case. Some lines need long work, others are just ready to be chunked as it … the context matter a lot.
The preparation of the line also for a long maintenance is not something optional in the quality of results.
If you have already consistent varieties, you don’t fucking care to make F1 Fems for the junkies ^^. Your IBLs are sold at a higher price in B2B. Not worth the pain in the ass to retail frankly.
Come one, insert a discreet pdf link ^^ I read very fast this kind of stuff, can be another stimulating discussion lol
update : @HolyAngel you’re a lord one more time ^^
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Yes, the data is bigger but the autosomal data in Y is less then the autosomal data then X. This is a Super important part to mention to get the full context of what actually going on.
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I see feminized operation like the general “end of time”, cannabis reflect humanity.
The morals and ethics of the next age will not allow such GMOs.
^^
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That’s why I pasted this excerpt of Allard’s book in post #209, because it contradicts so much the usual inbreeding depression argument I keep reading everywhere. Now I think when we talk about inbreeding depression we’re mostly talking about loss of hybrid vigor rather than anything else, which is something that can be counteracted by some techniques and careful pairing/selection.
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Fem seeds are not GMO, not even close.
I have to be frank and say that I don’t really have an understanding of what morals and ethics have to do with this at all. It’s a very very objective subject and there is ton of research done on it. I know that sometimes it’s hard to get out of your own world view and see things from a more objective perspective. But if we want to continue to innovate and push cannabis in the direction we see are benefiting the humanity, we need to see thing objectively and atleast understand what’s actually going on.
Also I want to be clear. I’m not telling you to start producing FEM seeds. The work you do is very important for the survival of cannabis and should not be neglected.
Pz 
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Look like i will write a wiki on the Allard book if it’s debunking what make me crazy all the time on depression in the cannaweb lol I will take the time to burn some weed on it anyway, you all sold me the book finally.
That’s a smart point for the hybrid vigor, I never took the equation on this angle. It can explain also a lot of misunderstanding on the genetic drifts.
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Beware that’s just a little phrase in the entire book, not sure there’s much more about it, I did not finish it yet. But I was stocked when I read it and it fueled (uhuh) my thoughts.
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