I had a feeling these oldies would be sensitive and need worked out , and that’s true - she’s throwing bananas week 5 flower - I plucked some and gonna leave some , but that’s why testing is important - so I will be hunting thru the f2’s looking for stable phenos & going to make f3’s and see if any stability shows, I’ll also be taking the 1996 x OG and hunting it & back crossing it to the keeper female of the f3 selection - I’ll be trying to stabilize these as regs , and once I get to f4 ish I want to try and stabilize them as fems as well, but before I get to the f4 variations I will be adding the f2 keeper to a feminized project before just for more testing - but the way these smell it’s more then worth the time to try and attempt to work out and stabilize -
Was hoping it would be sooner then later - but we are at the beginning of this journey & I will take all the time and do what I can go get to a point of satisfactory with these -
But for the meantime we can enjoy the unstable pheno from the original seed stock - and these f2’s are going to be where the work happens 
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I am sure there will be some solid phenos in the f2s. Lots of work to do. I wonder how stabile the crosses are, work to be done with those also
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Definitely some work to be done, I’ll be hunting thru the crosses to find a solid one to use as Backcrossing something inline , I pushed the big clone to its limit , as it shows & it wasn’t to happy, I’m assuming old genetics might have been bred outdoors or with Older style lights ? So I’m assuming pushing this one clone to its limits was overwhelming for her , I did go ahead and chop all the lower branches and left the main cola, if there’s any seeds that’s fine , but didn’t want the lowers going any crazier then they where with the bananas , but definitely going to work out and hunt the f2’s & then further it after - but will take some time but nobody wants to see this below
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I would bet that this plant was run outdoors, you probably are the first to run it indoors, just have to find a solid pheno and work from there.
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I was thinking the same, maybe it could acclimate to indoors after a few cycles of running the original clone if you think it’s worth keeping, or just say fuck it and move onto the f2s
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I’m really excited to see where this project goes. Figures crossed that the sour mothball scent holds up to cure and is passed to progeny! I’m pulling up a chair for this one.
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The instability on the 1996 original mom from the 2 seeds , is definitely unstable - but I’ll will make my attempt to start stabilizing these next round - I’ll pop a bunch and hunt them as normal & look for more stable phenos , I’ll also take the Og x 96 and look for a stable pheno to - to maybe back cross - will try a few different things - but I will make an honest attempt 
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damn she just wants to throw nanners. Still got faith that a more stable pheno will be found.
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Awesome project man. And naw I dont think anyone would get tired of these updates lol. Its so fun to see people work lines. Especially stuff from 30 years ago. Absolutely my favorite types of threads.
I see you added sulfur for terps and Ive heard this before.
I have a bag I used for PM. Does this stuff really help with those terps?
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I think it depends on the sulfur , I’m not sure you can mix those / but I use Photosynthesis plus & TPS signal which has some sulfur in both- but I’ve ran these with and without on some moms I’ve had for 4 years or so , and it definitely made them way more oily and brought out extra notes in the nose , but definitely increased terps , could be anywhere from .5 -2% just depending on genetics I’m assume , some get crazier and some just gain some extra notes that was subtle or non existent prior , but I’ve definitely seen improvements with using it / and I’ve also heard sulfur was in like most if not all products in the early years , and they have since toned down sulfur emissions tremendously , but I honestly thing TPS signal is a really good product & is sold as a terpene booster
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Threw the original mom outside to flower of the 96 - and she’s throwing some color on all the tops
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Hopefully she just hermed inside because she wasn’t happy there and will thrive in the sunlight!
That’s some pretty interesting purpling
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Not really to upset about the instability indoors, i definitely expected to have to work these out, but I just flipped 20 f2 into flower to test while I have 5 weeks left in the main room, will see the terps these next 5 weeks and see what we got - also pushing the 20 high par , just to see if that’s effecting them, and when I do the main run I’ll keep the par under 900
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I’m curious as well. It’s been a minutes since the last update
Unstable , every female f2 hermed , I won’t be focusing on this project as much , & will take a look back at it later perhaps , but very unstable and I don’t have the means to do a big hunt and then scrap 99% of the plants from intersex issues
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Its gonna take alot of time getting getting this line stable… question is is it worth it…
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What are the effects of this particular flower for you.
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The original female smelled amazing, I’m thinking of taking the new f2 male I had selected & hit something stable and see where that leads , might do that soon , but hunting the f2 seeds are quite tedious so far … but the new male smells extremely well
It has this super gassy sour smell on the stem rub that overtake the mother room
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Popped 3 seeds , 1 died , 1 female , 1 male , before I flowered the female , I made the f2 seeds , because I couldn’t get these again if I wanted too , so when I made the seeds I planted them and along side I ran 2 clones of the original mother , & both had hermed around week 5-6 , so I chopped them down, due to 48 other plants in the room - so haven’t had the chance to get anything smokable yet , but it’s only the beginning of this , if the new male shows out , I’ll be happy to continue hunting more f2 females , and do the tedious work to find one that doesn’t germ under high EC in the medium & higher par , I do believe I hermed the 2 clones by excessive par, but the f2 seeds hermed under around 600 par & within the first few weeks - so only time will tell
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