lol I’ve thought about this a lot while browsing this thread, while I was browsing the FDM website I saw a Durban hybrid they had for the purpose of staying short indoors.
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The bottom picture is not Nevils Haze it is a picture of SSH from flower-power see this is how confusion and miss information starts.
Found here- Holy grail Mr Nice. | Page 26 | International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums
These are Nevils Haze F1 from Mr Nice.
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This is a quote from a post Sam Skunkman made at Cannabis world over 20 years ago.
So going by Sam the OHaze sold 20 years ago made by others were F10 plus.
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Damn that’s false advertising. Shanti shouldn’t do stuff like that.
I seriously doubt Sam on that part about all the Haze being F10 at that point. Maybe his Haze was F10 and falling apart but other people still had the earlier stuff going strong.
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Sam posted it not me.
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I don’t mean to sound harsh but you’re getting almost religious fanatic level with all the quotes of cannabis scripture from Saint Nevil and Saint Sam. I get that you’re good at researching historical facts but there comes a time when first hand knowledge is more valuable than what someone said years ago in the past.
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Well your clearly posting for a reason Chara and it seems to be about dispelling any thing i say or post to this point.
Now i am a Haze religious fanatic lol.
I thought Sam had the most hands knowledge and Nevil when it came to Haze.
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I agree with some things and disagree with a lot of other things you say. It’s all good. We have a love of Haze in common for sure
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bro this thread is soooooo boring
ill be away from a while
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The proof is in the seed.
I follow my own path but i take note of what others say to take Nevil he talked about Males and their ability to pass on ancestral information and if you look at all the Haze hybrids he made they all used Haze as the male side.
You think he was right ?
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haha yea the back and forth stuff gets a bit tiring ,
a lot of dick swinging and the like , one needs to wear safety equipment to avoid being hit by a flying dick head …
so back to pictures of haze ,
this is tom hills haze x c99 , and my friend mr moon added c99 again to cut down the flowering and make it more manageable for some situations ,
she had some monstrous colas …
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@CocoaCoir i would take a look at White Buffalo Seed Collective if I had the urge to run haze indoors atm. They have some fine, fine selections made, like C5 x Original Haze.
Pz 
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Why would you believe the stories that are passed down by the “breeders” of Haze ? Maybe they are lying.
I wouldn’t believe one word SamS, Nevil, Shanti or any other supposed “breeder” in this dirty and disgusting game they are playing.
The stories (fairy tales rather) they tell are not believable in the least.
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Well lets take Nevil as an example his strains spoke volumes and continue to decades late.
Not sure what fairy tales Nevil said.
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First of all the “strains” they supposedly “bred” are not strains but thrown together plants that nobody really knows (except the “breeders” aka thieves) what they are and what lineage they have and how they have been mixed with other plants (not strains but plants) that once were, in a far away land and time, real strains or varieties. In other words they just took some plants and crossed them with other plants without any expertise or knowledge.
In the case of Haze I even doubt that it has been crossed (at least in the beginning) with anything because it is much too stable to have been “bred” by these liars and thieves. Probably just stole them from the origin or took seeds from some Thai or whatever they used and were lucky (with they I mean whoever was responsible for the “breeding”).
The whole cannabis business, through the illegality and big bucks that are in it, is a big lie and a scam and the people that have been involved in it the last decades like the supposed top breeders and “elite”, government, intelligence services, now pharma etc. have destroyed the cannabis plant and created such a mess that it will not recover unless everything is thrown overboard and built up from the ground again.
The people you so adore are nothing else than thieves and liars who have stolen the genetics from people that have bred them for hundreds and thousands of years and made a ton of money with them and given nothing to the real breeders (that actually bred and not just mixed some plants together and proclaimed themselves “breeders”).
It’s a wonder that they haven’t turned everything to shit like with Skunk (which is also a poorly thrown together “strain” with doubtful backstory and a bad breeding tool) and is certainly not owed to the expertise of these liars but to the cannabis plant itself and nature.
But I am sure that they will someday succeed to destroy even the last positive thing left in the genetics and then tell the world how great they are, how great the “strains” are they “bred” and gullible people will cheer them on and be happy to get fucked in the ass.
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The alternative is to take a trip to Thailand and find your own seeds?
I don’t understand the anger.
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I guess to each his own
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Haze is not stable mate its as unstable as they come you need to work it to bring about some predictability.
I agree with a lot of what you say but like any community there is good and there is bad in it and to be open and honest with you i have seen both.
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The Haze I have grown was stable - fairly stable in different measures (don’t know the right word in english) and in comparison to the other “strains” out there completely stable so that I conclude that it hasn’t been so badly bred like the rest that’s on the market.
If you believe that some guys took plants from thailand, colombia, mexico and india and then mixed them together and magically a strain appeared that is fairly stable like original haze and not like other strains which are all over the place, then that’s your choice.
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