All these scammers

[ifish]

Lol you’re givin them ideas

Is a good story tho : )

[Jetdro]

I’m with you @shag

Think they are low life pond scum

[ifish]

@GCBudz yes a lot of new people with brass necks
That behavior is frowned upon in eu growing scene but seams to be acceptable elsewhere
: )

[other_barry]

I know when I first got here, this place had Disneyland magic. I was all wide eyed and in wonder. Eventually that wore off, and I started noticing bad actors doing their thing, and it made me withdraw from the site a bit.

Nowadays I stay clear of the ‘free beans’ threads, and stick to my grow log, and check out posts that I think might be worth checking out.

[Foreigner]

@Buzz

“What happened with that dead horse?”

This is too easy

@ifish

That behavior is frowned upon

The police around here have straight up said “we can’t do anything about these scam telephone calls and they will remain profitable to scammers because we don’t have the budget to fight them and our priority is on violent crime.”

[ifish]

@shag i doubt the island is shielded , I’m sure they are already there under different names ……… playing the long game lol the bigger score

[ifish]

It’s become a sport
Even with the profile check they will just adjust the puppets to suit
: )

[ColeLennon]

You offered me seeds right after I joined. I declined. I still haven’t found the space or time to sow seeds. I do remember and found it quite kind.

[shag]

@Dirt_Wizard

Then @shag I am sorry to say but your friend is foolish. There are many foolish people in the world, many of them good, so I am not saying he’s anything other than that. But to me, leaving a place like this with many good community members rather than not engage with seed trading or giveaways as @Coda pointed out does in fact mean he was here for the seeds and he thinks he is too good for OG, or he does not have a good sense of the world we live in.

Boy, you folks do like to cast judgment .
My friend is no fool, and would hardly described as foolish.

@Dirt_Wizard

But to me, leaving a place like this with many good community members rather than not engage with seed trading or giveaways as @Coda pointed out does in fact mean he was here for the seeds and he thinks he is too good for OG, or he does not have a good sense of the world we live in.

This is sooo far from the truth…soooo very far.
Not to be rude here, but might I suggest you are clueless in this case.

This dude is probably more connected then most folks on OG.
He has routinely given me super hot $500-$1000 cuts over and over.
He knows a lot of the old-school breeders as personal friends.
You see he does have a good sense of the world we live in.
If fact the way I see it, he sees it better than most.
So could I suggest that maybe you save the judgment for someone you know just a little about?
He left on principal, I said that before, do you understand the concept?
You have replied as if you do not.

@Dirt_Wizard

No, it emphatically is not,

Well how does it look to you?
Are these ideas being supported?
No they are not by most and I feel like I am being personally harrassed over this.
So may I kindly ask you to rethink this statement?
I mean the truth is blatantly obvious here.

@Dirt_Wizard

and is a passive-aggressive accusation against another respected member here, which is not what we do.

Dude now you are coming off as holier than thou.
You have attacked me several times so you may need to look inwardly once in awhile to check yourself or continue down the hypocritical line even further.

@Dirt_Wizard

you’re acting in ways in this thread which are illogical and displaying most of the cognitive distortions of negative thinking that can result from or lead to mental illness such as depression, anxiety disorders, PTSD, and other common issues, which I experience.

Now I am mentally ill, diagnosed by you of course…WOW!
Your not judgemental at all ar ya.

Thanks for looking out for me and my mental health brother…
But I am all good thanks for caring sooo much though.
Your a real stand up chap.

@Dirt_Wizard

You are not a moderator or any sort of site authority

Wow, I thought I was…
Hmmm thanks, I was confused about that, good thing you told me…LOL
So I just need to shut the fuck up right…wow!

@Dirt_Wizard

Overgrow does not need a white knight riding in to save it,

Again we have some who thinks he is speaking for the group.
Get a clue buddy, you are only speaking for yourself here.
Others have spoken and they want something to be done.
Why do you dismiss their wishes so easily?
It would seem you don’t care how they feel or what they think, you have decided what is best for everyone because you think you know best.
Well, I feel you don’t know best and others feel that same way.
But you don’t seem to care what others think.

@Dirt_Wizard

use my noggin before I start slapping stamps on cards to strangers.

So now I was scammed because I did not think…WOW you sure are opinionated brother.
You always have all the answers, it seems just not the right answers.

@Dirt_Wizard

what we need is to keep doing what we are doing because it is fine,

See here this shows you just don’t get it bro…
Others have said it is not fine, but you keep insisting it is when it is not fine for some of us.
We say it is not fine but you insist that everything is fine even though others ask for changes.
Do we not have a say in this matter?
It would seem you would like to take our voice away.
Why would you do that ?
Is not our voice just as important as yours is?
To me it feels as though it is not as important to you.

@Dirt_Wizard

Please stop agitating and attacking other members who won’t share your sense of distress and urgency

Wow, might I sat the exact same thing to you…
Talk about calling the kettle black here…WTF???
We are discussing scammers here.
You come into the thread where we are having a discussion and tell us all we need to stop.
You are harassing those who started this thread in hopes of finding a solution.
You don’t seem to want to let us have the conversation.
You seem to tell us we do not have a right to our opinion.
I feel we should have a right to our own opinion even if you think we should not.

@Dirt_Wizard

and not start a red letter system against other members

Do you boys even read the thread before you make a comment?
If you really did read it you would see that you folks are the only ones taking about this sorta thing.
I have never ever said anything about some red letter system.

You all act like I am the only one who feels this way…
I am not, many have voiced their distaste for scammers.
But that just seems to be ignored in favor of what others feel is best for us.

[ColeLennon]

Brother, take what you can out of his sound advise and discard the rest.

[SHSC-1]

I dunno…
the only way to compromise and make everyone happy is to have the free seeds threads under lock and key. Prove you are a real gardener and a real OG and you get the key. Otherise… blow it out your ass.

that is my honest feeling on the subject.
Some of the antics here on this site and spilling over into threads on other sites are a real eye opener. Getting personally attacked on other sites for involvement here in free seeds and contest threads caused me to have a major WTF? moment. Not going to elaborate but that changed everything for me.
Going forward
I will participate as a donor , only to giveaways run by people I trust and I consider friends.
I won’t be doing any more giveaways myself.
I have also ceased being involved in the free seed threads as being attacked and called names for winning the random number generator too many times … and on another site to boot… has my personal trust in the members here pretty fuckin low right now.

So do I think something needs to be done to clean up the riff raff?
sure, but it’s Lemonade Joe’s site and he makes the rules so we all have to either suck it up or leave.
I don’t feel like leaving, there are good people here.
But I am lowering my expectations and proceeding with maximum caution.
TL2 and TL 3 rules should apply for all exchanges but that is impossible to police so it is up to us as individuals to set our comfort levels with giving an receiving. I’m going forward with that in mind.

[Oldjoints]

You are always welcome to take me up on my offer………

[ColeLennon]

I know thanks. I’m outta likes already this morning.

[Foreigner]

@ColeLennon : not good at rationing.

[ColeLennon]

If I was stuck in the Andes with a plane wreck. I would probably still fight over the leg.

[shag]

@SHSC-1

So do I think something needs to be done to clean up the riff raff?

@Dirt_Wizard
What do you have to say to @SHSC-1
He has voiced his opinion on this subject and it does not jive with your outlook.
You say keep things the way they are, he states he is unhappy with the way things are.
Do you tell him tough luck and to suck it up like you told me to?
Is this another case when the opposing opinion does not matter?
Should @SHSC-1 have a voice here or does he just need to shut up too.?

[Foreigner]

This ankle needs to last you a week so pace yourself

[Foreigner]

My apologies to all for my involvement in this dumpster fire. I wish there was a dumpster fire emoji.

From now on we will engage in drumheads and summary execution for those who do not meet our stringent standards.

I feel dirty.

[ifish]

This little piggy went to market …… yum
: )

[Oldjoints]

You could have at least used lube……