Good point 
I’m flattered to be listed among such fine people.
Thank you.
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Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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I am not “defending the scammers” or whatever people were saying to those opposing site imposed changes. I appreciate that the site allows each user to decide how to handle it for themselves. You make more rules, they will just find a way to circumvent them. Repeat.
There is no perfect fix in my mind. I would hate to see this place locked down because of a few bad actors.
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I appreciate all input : )
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I’m no knocking or arguing with ya @shag ,
but I think we’re overthinking things too much.
There have always been scammers, there will always be new ones to replace the old. There will be sock puppet accounts and those who sell giveaway seeds on other forums.
The fear that the good people here will change and stop the good things we know and love them for because of a few clowns is kind of unfounded or it already would have happened.
Millions of seeds are made and given away or traded through this amazing free forum, and that’s not going to stop.
The mods are aware and always watching like ninjas in the shadows.
The more we talk about a few bad actors, the more power we give them and the bigger the idea gets that they’re a real problem here.
They aren’t.
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Sorry if I was a bit defensive there, I do like a good discussion but I do not wish to argue either. 
You do make some good points, so I hear ya. 
And @Yetigrows I too respect your opinion although I may not totally agree with it.
Here is an idea…
It is kinda corny but it could be effective.
It is kind of what me and a small group of others is already doing.
This is how we got the word out about hellablaked.
Word got around very quickly but it was limited to the few in our group.
It would have been more effective if the network was bigger.
Neighborhood Watch
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FYI I’m in the business of giving beans back or forward so if anyone has a grievance with me and how soon I pop beans let me know and we’ll get something in motion. Don’t need any bad vibes wished upon me
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I remember this guy and his followers. Is he still around?
Yeah, still doing wild stuff.
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Shit now I have to throw out my red beret.
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I will take it I always want to be a guardian angel for Halloween. 
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You can have the epaulettes too
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Used to see him in interviews. Havent seen him in a long time…. But then I dont watch news much anymore. Yup. The Guardian Angels
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oh boy. 
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You are a good member of this community.
I have never heard anyone say anything negative about you.
Besides that you are part of my family and I have your back.
Like on the island we all contribute in our own way.
I take no issue with those that move slow or have some failure shit happens in life.
I take no issue with anything except intentional deception.
Like when someone’s house gets burned down every week …we gotta say something… 
The Guardian Angels did a lot of good against gang violence here in Detroit.
But
I feel this sort of approach may be too strong for what we are dealing with here. 
I guess we could have The Guardian Angels on telephones so to speak.
Tell each other what we see when we see it.
Something like this… "Hey did you see this new guy gobbling up everything they see?
Yea, joe I will tell frank to keep an eye on him.
Cool, I can notify the rest of the group.
No witch hunts, just neighbors keeping an eye on one another’s backs.
There is a strange dog roaming the streets, pull your children in the house, that sorta thing.
Nothing fancy, just good old communication.
I am going to start a neighborhood watch community on Fantasy Island…what can it hurt.
It will let everyone know right off the bat, we don’t take no shit, and we want no Riff-Raff.
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Thanks @shag now my anxiety can rest
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i got kicked out of school for 10 days for turning in a bag of stems once. my buddy broke up all the weed in english class, rolled about a dozen joints, and put the bag of stems on the bookshelf while the teacher was sitting at her desk seemingly oblivious. of course i put my hand up and said there was a bag of pot on the bookshelf. she ignored me so i got up and went over and picked it up, then she sent me to the office. cops came and it turned out to be 0.01g of pot in 1987 in wv. dad was pissed, at them not me, and i got kicked off the football team, right before we went to state. oh well, makes for a good story now.
actually, it sounds quite the opposite to me. it sounds like you are not accepting the fact that in order to be nice to everyone, someone will take advantage of it and that you want to impose restrictions on everyone else to prevent some from doing what they feel is right because you feel it is wrong.
that is how it comes across to me anyway. you’ve created your own space where you control who does what to whom and apparently want to impose that on the whole website. while having your own space in a community is fine and all, it should be the end of it. it seems that you forget that since this is a community and it is freely open to anyone who wants to join that it contains a sample of the community we all belong to. said community has mostly neutral members, a few good ones, and a few bad ones. there are many times more good ones than bad ones here, but the only way to stop the bad ones from joining would be to turn away good and neutral ones also. not only is that not the overgrow way, at least that i have seen on here both before and after the hiatus, but it isn’t the way we should act as humans. maybe if we had a little more compassion and understanding and a lot less ‘rugged individualism’ we would be able to have a friendly discussion about things that really matter, like politics.
but it’s your call, not mine. you do you, just stop trying to stop me from doing me. have a great day.
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I am new too, and don’t know all the ins and ours of OG, but after 331 posts in is one the only times I see names. 
I see the feedback thread is gone in favor of individual threads, but the onus is on the user to create and solicit good reviews for those.
Is it inappropriate to publicly call someone out for a bad trade? Where is feedback or user reviews found?
I would like to be able to protect myself on a trade, and it sounds like looking through post history is my best tool, but that’s quite a flimsy tool.
I’m not interested in discussing giveaways and moral obligations to grow seeds or post pics, that’s not my horse to beat. I am interested in learning what I need to do to help protect myself from bad trades. I was chatting about trading with grove bags, and that is not something I would be comfortable doing unless I could look up feedback or otherwise vet trading partners, as I would expect they would want to do with me too!
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