@nube I looked into your Root Pocket planters. You are absolutely right on the price. My next investment will be these.
I know you’re camping. Hope you are having fun! See you in a week.
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My last post was my notes at the time, about a month ago when we went camping. I’m playing catch up in this thread and we’re still a few weeks behind. Sorry for the confusion. 
We had a nice trip. Drove to central/southern Colorado and camped for a week. The drive in was scenic.
Our campsites were both right next to rivers!
We went for a killer hike that seemed straight up the mountain Poplar Gulch, Colorado - 76 Reviews, Map | AllTrails but it was so nice I had to stop for a photo op.
My girlfriend and I didn’t see a single other person on the trail. Not one. And thankfully no bears. Both are shocking in Colorado these days.
We did of course have to stop for several bodhi breaks along the way. 
After a few days up in the Collegiate Peaks, we made our way to Telluride. This is my favorite area in the whole state, by far. By far.
It was my first time camping in the Telluride campground next to the river. Before I’ve always had to camp on BLM land up at 11k elevation at Alta Lakes; this was a nice change. 
The weather cooperated so we enjoyed beach days in the river’s snowmelt
and nice southwest sunsets.
It was a much-needed visit to nature, and a good time was had by all.
I’ll get back to the Pura Vida log later this week.
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Looks like an amazing trip!
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Beautiful place. Enjoy
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Sounds like you had a great time. Nice to just away from it all at times. Looks like a beautiful area.
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Fun trip, and super cheap, too! Oh, and easy to social distance while camping. 
We brought all our own food pre-cooked and so the only expenses besides normal cost of living were gas and campsites, which was like $150 total for the week. My old car loves camping and got 40mpg.
Back on topic, I forgot the notes about the males in the last grow update. Here are the notes from day 14F, the day I chopped them and put them in water.
#3 Short, rubbery stems, mild generic weed smell.
#5 Tall, rubbery stems, little bit of perfume.
#6 Tallest, firmer stems, lighter almost playdough smell that’s sweeter.
#8 Tall, firmer stems, skunky and more acrid smell.
#9 Tall, firmest stems, most acrid stinky puke smell.
Which would you pick to do F2 selects? Do any of the males sound or look standout?
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My personal choice(s) would be #'s 6 and 8…much success. Stay safe/be well.
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#5 and #9 , both sound awesome to add them to the genetic pool
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Personally I think 6 and 9. They have the best characteristics to me.
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I would choose # 6 & 8.
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They all look healthy, and 8 definitely has the densest flower clusters. I’d lean towards maximum diversity, they all look like decent candidates.
Based on the descriptions, you might consider culling 3 and possibly 5 if the structure and weak stems are a problem.
If possible, reserve judgement until you can what their pollen production is like.
It kinda goes without saying, but I’d consider production of usable pollen the most important factor.
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Could be wrong, but looks like you were hiking up by Uncompahgre Peak. Beautiful area.
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I ordered a 10 pack myself. Looks like some quality and I like the bio-degradable feature. I’m moving up from 3 gal pots to 5 gal pouches. Stoked!
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Based on your description of the smell, I’d say #9. I love me some skunky, acrid weed. But he looks pretty stretchy and the flower clusters don’t seem as tight as some of the others. I’d probably pick #8. But I know nothing about breeding, so…
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I would also say #6 and #8. Puke does not sound at all pleasing any way, but skunky is good, thats just me though ^^
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Kind of late to be chiming in on the topic of pots, but I like Grassroots. Seven gallon pots for only like $4.50 a pop, which is the cheapest I’ve ever found for fabric pots. Made in CA, too. Heavy-duty and the stitching’s on the outside. And you can order direct from them, too, and not have to deal with hydro stores or wherever jacking up the prices.
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Grassroots are top quality, no doubt. They’re just a little more expensive. Here’s the 7gal Root Pouches for $3.20/ea in a 10pk:
If I could get Grassroots pots for the same price, I’d probably choose them tbh.
PSA: They degrade (wear out), but no cloth pots are biodegradable (they’re all made from plastic fabric). I think Root Pouches and Grassroots are BPA free and won’t leach anything into your medium or the environment. Neither are recyclable either, in case anybody was curious.
About the males, I was leaning towards either #3 or #9 initially. #3 cuz I’d love to isolate whatever goodness is in those shorty phenos, and it had the densest clusters forming. #9 cuz of the vigor and the smell - it was my favorite in veg. Real puke smell is gross, but when it’s the stem rub smell of your plants, it’s good. Kinda like puppy breath. lol
You bring up a great point, @zephyr - pollen production. None of them had issues with that though. They all 899-DUMPed pollen everywhere.
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That is a good deal for sure. I like the fact that the Grassroots are made in CA, though. I’m trying to keep my money in my state, help our economy etc. Those Root Pouches are made in Oregon. If I lived there, I’d probably buy those.
Re: that puke smell: you know if it smells gross, it’s probably gonna taste gooooood haha. I’m thinking of the Clusterfunk I grew a few years ago, smelled like onions and body odor big-time, with a little garlic thrown in. But the taste was really pine-y and hashy and super-tasty. Or even some of those nasty Chems that end up tasting lip-smackingly good. Just a thought…
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I’m considering buying some meth and some guns for the same reason.
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LOL! I am on another thread talking about the old days and “powder.” Must be in the air today 
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