I’ve researched different trimming techniques to manipulate growth. My question is by targeting/limiting colas can one increase potency in remaining colas. With opinions on when to harvest etc… etc… etc let’s bumb it up a little and throw this in the mix. I’m thinking I already have the answer.
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Who knows what increases potency other than environmental and genetics ( imo), tho it’d sure be interesting to hear your or others’ take on this matter…
Gaz
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It seems that limiting flowering areas of the plant does help put those sugars to the remaining flowers. To me it seems logical that it would indeed produce higher potential potency 
This technique only seems to increase yield, when plant focuses on few main colas and doesn’t feed weak lower branches.
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Not quite yeild I’m interested in… although lot’s of big buds always a good thing.
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So what if you want to re-veg , your gonna have to leave bud on it etc, plus people who don’t want to stress their plants or don’t like taking too much from a plant etc, how would you encourage someone like that that you are indeed correct.?
it’s usually “lollipopped” to increase buds size but potency, can you explain more @jgblackriver3 how you came to this conclusion.? Cheers mate …
Gaz
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It seems logical that by manipulating (removing) lower flowers from the stems leaving only tops or upper 1/3 throws all possible nutrients to remaining flowers. At least that’s my hypothesis… What I should have done was approach my two girls with different techniques to test as they are sister plants seeds from the same plant. I know this the buds from this grow seems to be extra sticky. And pre sample set me back PDG with some stick around
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I didn’t say it doesn’t come with limitations LOL… BTW I’ve never tried reveg. so it never came to be a worry. Guess I’ll cross that bridge when I come to it.
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Potency (chemotype) is hardcoded. If you grow the plant at its maximum potential and respect the product (proper drying, proper curing etc), the way you do it will not change anything.
Like said Joe, the number of secondary you choose to maintain is mainly a question of yield/time ratio.
It can be extended to quality too in considering an extrem case : too many bud sites without extensive veg time can’t end with a fire product, so it will be hard this way to reach the full potential of an “over-tired” plant.
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It may be somewhat hard coded but at this point I believe it does. Unfortunately like I said I should have approached it differently with the two girls I have going now so as to have some kind of control. Maybe even a third untouched. Next go around I guess. Truly appreciate your feedback
You’re welcome ;o)
Sometimes it’s sensitive to make the difference between “genetic potential” and “optimization”. But we will enter naturally in the breeding subject and its paradigm, as an extension of this consideration. And it’s very not the subject here.
Just, not “it may be” or you will fool yourself on your personal researches. It is the case and it’s fully documented since decades now, to the GMO engineering and sequences. I invite you to throw an eye in this thread to debunk yourself this a-priori.
Basically, if you harvest a better weed with the same clone it’s because you do a better job than is more respecting the needs of the specimens. It’s typically what is a phenotype : an answer to an environment with a static genetic stock full of switches.
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My rationality behind this theory stand as this. Although there are genetic limitations in strains concerning overall potency/yeild. Everyone can agree that one can somewhat manipulate the desired targeted effects by when one chooses to harvest. So many ways to trim to gain desired growth why not targeting potency by limiting where that plant places those hormones. So far with the results I’m getting I believe it does. But as I said I most definitely should have done a more scientific approach to test. I guess me and my roommate will put it to the test as it is his favorite flavor and we’ve flamed a lot of flowers from this strain
I have some reveggers in bud now. They have been growing since May outdoors. What I call my experiment plants. Do you think the plants will be over-tired and have shit quality bud? I already know the buds will be smaller, because of all the branching.
Sorry to bomb your topic @jgblackriver3
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stick a nail through the stem its a old trick but does work makes the plant create more frost/thc therefore more potent only trick i can think of or can always use some brown suger mixed in with the water also creates more frost
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In outdoor, you’re a bit outside these considerations because the sun. You can grow a giant baobab bushy, it will not hit so much your quality if you counterbalance with solid nutes and cares of the roots.
Reveging risks are more for motherplants (clones producers) and futures mothers/fathers of seeds than for the weed. No worry to have on this side ;o)
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Not at all… I enjoy open debate. As long as respectfully applied. When “diplomacy” lapses so do my patience. I believe that one can manipulate growth in many ways. Right? By simply applying curtain trimming/pruning topping, micro… Etc etc etc you can manipulate how that plant grows. Same thing with the proper use of nutrients… Lighting… outdoors vs. indoors… altitude… latitude…longitude. All play rolls. All a delicate balance. Some stress affect some strains and respond well. Some not so well. I honestly believe the same can apply to potency. If a stressed plant loaded with buds and hungry. Will those buds be as juiced with all the goodies. Or will they lack. I believe lack and if the sample I took is any indication my girls might not produce pounds but what I will harvest will be bomb buds full of goodies. As for reveg I can’t honestly give input there.
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I’d be interested to watch a test. Maybe next grow. 
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So maybe “manipulate” potency is the wrong term. More like optimize potency for that strain with targeted colas.
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Exactly but in more depth considering nutrients, lighting… It’s all a balancing act when it comes right down to it. And the plant responds to each a little differently. Find that “sweet spot” and the plant should respond with kind response. A overly burdened orange tree doesn’t produce the sweetest of oranges does it?
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So hear me out on this. After testing a lot of plants for potency at a few different labs I have came to the conclusion that unstressed buds towards the top of the plant always test higher than buds lower on the canopy. By testing tops only I got to see some nice pretty numbers but they were not really what the entire plant would average out to. By taking multiple buds from flower sites all around the plant a more accurate view of the plants “thc percentage” can be achieved. Soooo this gets me thinking if tops test higher than bottoms what happens if you have all tops? If you have all tops will the entire plants thc level be higher than a plant with lowers also? I’m not too sure either way who knows but that’s a hell of a thing to think about. Thanks for posting this definitely going to try to look more into it!
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