There was someone on here who had a 400 plant count and his brother who also had a similar amount got a visit. Trying to remember his name on here.
The police showed up and wanted a guided tour of his grow, did a plant count, made some suggestions about his security and growing that many plants in his basement and back yard as he lived in a residential area. Not sure what happened after that.
I also have a buddy who was shut down on PEI for having more plants than allowed, his neighbor had a break in and called the police, when they were checking out the neighbors yard, they saw all his plants in his yard and asked to see his licence and grow, he had about 20 more than he should have, as he was making clones.
Another thing that may cause problems if you get a visit is if you’re on a disability income, which is not a lot of money but you have a large grow and can’t show how you pay for all the power and stuff with a limited income to do it.
Sent my renewal in the mail on March 12th, and just received my new license in the mail today on April 11th.
I’ve never had to wait more then 2 months, it’s crazy how long it takes for some of you to receive them!
FOR RENEWALS : I have not read through this thread yet but I just wanted to say, as long as you send in RENEWALS on time, they can take all the time they want to process. The longer the better. You are allowed to continue your grow until you receive your new permit and the date will be from the moment they finalize the renewal . So if it takes them 5 months, thats 5 extra free grow months for you. But it must be received in time.
I wonder of they consider a clone a plant only after it has grown roots. Would a snip in a glass of water count as a plant ? I called health canada and they did not know the answer. Odd
Yes they would if they wanted too the way the document is worded, like all government documents is very ambiguous and open to different interpretation. Even any part of a plant could be considered a separate plant. Each seed you hold is considered a plant, and you are only allowed to hold seeds to the amount of plants on your license, minus the amounts of plants growing. So if your plant count is maxed out with growing plants any seed held would be over your plant limit.
Hmm I don’t like that answer at all ! lol Really ? Seed count towards plant count ? Have you heard that from someone from health canada ? I know I’ve seen on their site that we are not allowed to buy sell trade gift seed. But nowhere did it mention counting towards plant count . That’s nuts lol
I was more surprised to see that health canada had little to no info and suggested I write to cannabis quebec or something of the sort. That was really weird. It’s federal why would I need to seek information from provincial side. I never followed up. I don’t think a snip should count until it has rooted. It’s also silly that you can’t grow in and out simultaneously. Can never keep healthy bug free back up cuts of good medicine
it is my understanding that the Cannabis act states One Seed is equal to One Gram of dried flower. Nowhere does it say a seed is the equivalent of a plant in your plant count. I disagree with Shadey’s interpretation… not to argue… just politely disagreeing hehe
I take it to mean One seed = One gram of dried flower in your plant count
Personally, I could care less what they say about seeds.
When I first applied for one of these licenses the application form had a question on it that asked if I needed Start Up Materials… being clones or seeds. I checked the NO box meaning I did not need start up materials from a licensed provider. No other follow up was made prior to them approving my original license… no questions about where I was aquiring my start up materials (seeds/clones). They still sent me the license and have never questioned me about the plants I grow or where they came from.
The cannabis act is such a convoluted piece of legislation , full of contradictions and fluff.
So I spoke to a lawyer about my seed collection and what I was told satisfies me … and that is that any and all genetics I held at the time of license approval , instantly became legal cannabis (for me) under the act.
At no time in the last 5 years have I been presented with a list of Cannabis Act/Health Canada approved clone or seed suppliers for licensed growers. In fact my investigations into most of the leading Licensed Producers at the time showed me that virtually none of them offered clone or seed sales to Health Canada Licensed growers. Any that did offered what I consider to be unknown trash based on seeing other growers who got duped into sourcing those seeds.
To the best of my knowledge there is no licensed provider offering elite clones to the health canada licensed growers either.
We are forced to go to the grey and black market to find the plants that truly help us with our various medical conditions.
This is why the Canadian Cannabis Act is not worth the paper it is written on and is an incomplete piece of legislation full of contradictions… but hey… it came from Trudeau so what do you expect LOL
I don’t count my seeds as part of my plant count … health canada can shov it up thier asses.
If you have a medical grow license, they tack on the personal to the medical. Example: as a regular person, I can carry 30 grams of weed with me. Then if I get a medical grow license that has 150 grams, the total is 180g you can carry. So, if you are a regular person, you can carry 30 seeds. Then whatever you can carry additionally as a medical grower.
I learned that from the cops.
There is no limit to the amount of dried bud you can have at your grow location if I wanted 50 pounds of bud in storage it’s totally legal. So seed numbers are moot .
I have my application still sitting on my desk and re read it, you are correct it is per gram not plant count, my bad
When I first applied I also ticked the no box for supplies, not had any comebacks. I did call my designated licensed supplier just put of curiosity to see if they sold seeds, but they didn’t.
the problem with legalization is that there is zero incentive for the Licensed Producers to make clones or seed availlable to the licensed public. The licensing is so layered that to get the license to sell seed and clones is yet another layer of beauracracy and regulation not to mention the additional costs layered on.
I worked with a consultant for a couple months as they took my business plan and worked out the costs to make it happen. That plan was simply to grow, breed and sell seed… no bud sales, just seed. I was told it would cost in excess of a MILLION DOLLARS to get licensed for seed sales.
Legalization in Canada is a farce and it’s only going to get worse as more and more Canna businesses are priced out of the industry thru regulation and taxation.
I believe some level of micro licensing is available.
However I agree that the industry is over regulated. Typically this is a response to historical black market actors and organizations and relaxes over time.
I can only hope this is the case here. Craft beer has been supported on small scales in North America.
sure there is micro licensing availlable but not for selling seeds and clones to licensed growers or licensed cannabis retail outlets…
I have done the research into the micro licensing and could go that route if I wanted to sell craft grown flower to licensed stores. However, doing seed/clone sales requires multiple layers of licensing and has been set up by health canada and the government in such a way that the costs are huge and unattainable.
If it was attainable, there would already be guys like me with legal seed and clones being sold via a website or over the counter at cannabis shops. The status quo will not change as the government has no incentive to do so. Canada is already in violation of the UN treaties on drugs by “legalizing” cannabis as well as allowing some juristictions (BC) to legalize hard drugs like fentanyl and crystal meth, heroine, cocaine, crack ect. ect. This is all in contradiction to the UN treaty and Canada could be fined under that treaty but so far the UN is turning a blind eye. Other nations, especially in the EU are seeing this and following our lead and the lead some american states have made years ago.
That aside… there are two reasons we do not have seeds and clones availlable as easily as buying other cannabis products… 1) The big LP’s do not want you to have clones and seeds… you growing your own cuts into thier profits. So they do not pursue the additional licensing required to do so. 2) The big LPs are spending big dollars lobbying government to end home growing … because it cuts into thier profits and anyone paying attention these days knows that the Canadian Cannabis industry is failing big time.
bottom line is, my research into getting licensed for growing a modest garden under a micro license that also allows for seed and clone sales is simply unattainable and the costs are very real. I buy my lotto max and 649 lottery tickets and if I ever strike the millions… I’m gonna pay whatever it takes to create a seed and clone franchise in Canada LOL
