That’s why we’re in the acmpr sytem. Our doc won’t sign shit, but will gladly send you to another specialist for the chemical-of-the-week experiments. 5 years of that crap was enough. At least you can pheno/strain hunt with a licence, which we find critical to solve that complex migraine issue. Some strains make it worse, others have varied effects, one so far, is the best. It is best meds when grown outdoors as well. Hope you are having some success.
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Sooner or later, the gov’t will make changes to the ACMPR.
"Jarbeau added that Health Canada might inspect personal or designated medical cannabis production sites to verify compliance.
“Generally, inspections of registered individuals or designated producers are conducted at sites that may pose a higher risk such as those with a high number of plants or multiple registrations, or those where (Health Canada) has received a number of complaints from the public.”"
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“In comments emailed to MJBizDaily , Health Canada spokeswoman Tammy Jarbeau said it is illegal for individuals with a personal or designated medical cannabis production registration to distribute or sell cannabis to anyone besides themselves or their designated recipient”.
With Health Canada’s, very ambiguous description of what is considered a cannabis plant, it means seeds or even a leaf can not be distributed or given away if you have a medical licence, you can argue that they come from your 4 recreational plants, but not sure that would work, they may shut the rec side down for those with medical.
What I could see them do is reduce the amount of plants per gram a day use for indoor cultivation.
This could lower the high plant count numbers being offered by these license agencies offering greater amounts for higher fees. Or they may make regular inspection a compulsory thing with high plant counts.
As I have said before, if your legal income shows you can’t support your growing costs, they are going to assume you are making money some other way to finance your grow.
Having a licence for a lot of plants does not mean you will be growing all your allowed to, but that’s where the regular inspections will come in to determine what you are doing.
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Same talks here in Manitoba. People are buying houses in the suburbs and getting the 499 count license, filling them with ‘legal’ weed and selling it all…organized crime type stuff they say.
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I have kept my grow script because I fear a future gov’t could kill home grow. But . . . I have kept my script small (3 grams/15 indoor plants) to stay under the wire.
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I am at 23 plants and won’t be looking for more atm.
If they cancel home grow for rec I think there will be a lot more people seeking medical grows instead. I can’t see them doing it though unless the big ag grows complain they can’t make enough profit to run.
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That would suck if they revamp the entire setup for home grows because of a few bad apples. It’s a shame because medical patients have setup their grows equipment and procedure wise to their plants counts. To change this would not be fair to current medical patients who are complying. I really hope they just keep things the way they are… only issues I see is the processing times of these licenses.
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Well, the drums are starting to beat when you see news reports like that.
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Son of a b**** I wish the hell they’d hurry up and smart and the f****** here in Florida and the rest of the United States and just freaking legalize it and take it off scheduled one
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Here in Toronto organized crime is taking full advantage of ACMPR they are setting up families of 4 adults in houses each with a license for 494 plants so almost 2000 plants a house…it will not belong before they set up a full inspection agency to check up on all ACMPR grows at this rate…The police have even been on the news asking citizens to buy from dispenceries to curb the black market.Though 90% of the illegal grown weed goes south to the U.S.
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Fire up those old snowmobil trails LOLOLOL
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And remember it aint illegal unless the cuffs get slapped on even then hello mr attorney…
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Harper did it already… old talk ACMPR is a bunch of private ‘cartels’ goes with ‘cannabis has no medicinal value’ LOL is Bill Blair changing his fucking stripes again? Watch out for O’Toole and his “feelings” on med weed…before next election hmmm?
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Those license agencies offering pay to play should of never been allowed. Complete fuckin scam that has helped tremendously to undermine the medical community. I never understood how they could legally allocate plant numbers based on how much a person payed them.
Fuck them and anyone who has used that loophole .
There are very very few people who need more then 49 indoor plants and those that do are usually not in any kind of shape to grow their own , let alone grow hundreds of plants.
All that being said there should be NO plant numbers whatsoever. Should be grow what you want to. I don’t know of a single law that limits how much booze a person can brew and store at home.
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the agencies wouldn’t exist if the (OMA here) regulatory agency that doctors operate under, recognized the value of Cannabis medically. More than often your family doctor wants nothing to do with cannabis recommendations, and will not sign your papers, which would cost nothing for acmpr approval. Why would they sign? their drug pusher companies won’t make money and you might even get healthier…what doctor wants that??? They get a lot of grief from their peers as well. The agencies (despite how crooked it seems) fill a necessary gap in service, I wouldn’t have been able to find anyone except a Tweed Owned med facility, who won’t sign unless you enroll with an LP, then pressure you regularly. I’d rather pay a grow your own company, or get an MD that wasn’t a pusher…yeah pay to grow it is. Using extracts for meds can easily put you over a 49 plant count, just trying to keep up with regular medicating IMHO. Not to mention growing regs from seed can leave you with …shazam…20 plants for your cycle If it wasn’t for those ‘scam’ agencies my partner would still be off work suffering, with growing she has a quality of life and a functional life instead of making taxpayers foot the permanent disability cheques. Its not the best but it works for us.
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Agreed everytime i asked my aged doctor about a cannabis script he refused and brought out his big sample box from the pharma companies always pushing new pharmaceuticals on me,even though i would tell him i already buy buds and they do way more to make me feel better that the pharmaceuticals you keep pushing on me.So i took recourse and used a 3rd party to obtain my license.Other wise i would still be buying blackmarket weed as the dispensary bud sucks to.I took a higher plant count as i volunteered to take on 8 medical users on disability with very low income and not able to grow themselves.If it was not for cannabiscanada none of that would be possible.
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Totally agree with you, there is a need for these agencies atm, until doctors get trained on the bennifits of cannabis.
The problem they have with weed, unlike pharmaceuticals which they can just look up in a book to find dosage recommendations, side effects ect, is too much work for them, plus if something happens to you because of the use, they can be sued. Until cannabis is researched properly and they can look in their book and say you got X, y and z you need 5 grams a day of 20% THC and 5% CBD they will not be interested, as well as big pharma and health Canada pressuring them to not go that route.
If I was offered a 200 plant count I would have said yes please as well. People should be allowed to grow and use as much as they want. Also supplement their growing costs selling a bit to friends.
I had this discussion with the nurse practitioner, at my last assessment, they don’t need to be doctors any more.
She asked how much I was using a day, I said as I use oil it would be equivalent to about 6-7g a day of dry flower, so she said I will bump you up from 4 to 4.5g a day.
I said, why are you restricting me on the amount, when I can take as much as I like. She said, I am aware of that, I am restricting the amount of plants you can grow, as a medical cannabis grower myself, I know you don’t really need any more plants to get what you need for yourself.
This is why I think they may start to reduce plant numbers for indoor grows. They are realizing you can produce high quantities with a small number of plants. They don’t care if you’re trying to breed good medical strains, or helping others it’s purely something they would rather not deal with altogether.
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I wasn’t knocking those who have had to for righteous reasons. I am knocking that that is even necessary. I truly believe they allowed it to be set up the way it is in order to undermine the legit medical people knowing that POS would abuse it.
I am 100% against the pharmaceutical industry just to be clear. And actual against how most of our so called " health care " system works.
Legit medical patients have and are paying the price for their Enron type green rush. It is why I was against legalization from the begging.
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lol only the manufacture of high grade pharmaceuticals using recombinant DNA technology keeps me alive. I’m not sure how anyone can be “against” an industry keeping people alive? As for keeping me sane in a world of insanity, that requires weed…lots of it.
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Another similar large bust announcement today from the Durham Regional Police (east & ne of Toronto).
And this . . .
““The monitoring of individual licensed growers is clearly not happening on a scale required,” says Detective Brad Corner of the DRPS Drug Enforcement Unit. “In order to keep an eye on these operations, someone needs to check on them at least once during the growing season, and that just isn’t happening.””
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