Cannabis Current Events (Part 2)

Yes, and I paid bad money for the opportunity! Money definitely spent.

No, no, it’s a Supima T-shirt, not a Supreme T-shirt. Interestingly, I never really cared for The Supremes, though I did love some other Motown girl groups. Beechwood 54789.

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I looked at some of their gear and had a good laugh. They sell a branded crowbar. Yes, a crowbar, dollar store quality prying instrument.

I kind of want Mrs Foreigner to design me a knock off Supreme T-shirt because it would make me laugh to wear it tongue in cheek.

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Agreed. I didn’t realize there is a whole category of young people reviewing cannabis strains from the dispensaries on Youtube. The first thing they look for is visual appeal, then smell, then the THC% on the label. I’m not knocking it. They have no interest in growing. They just want what they want.

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Yes. Much of this nuance is only of interest to nerds like us.

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I buy edibles rather than making my own. (I don’t trust myself not to fuck it up.) The last couple of times I was in a dispo, I asked the budtenders (HA!) what percentage of customers would they say bought flower as opposed to more processed cannabis products. All of them said less than half bought flower, some said as little as 25%. Surprised the shit out of me.

Just based on my little survey, I’d say I have to agree.

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This is why I suggest home-growing will soon lose voter support and may just go away completely.
Most folks think I am nuts when I say this but time will tell. :thinking:

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Maybe? Once people have the right to grow their own though… many of them are likely to keep it up on the DL… and I don’t know how much effort would be put into stopping it?

Probably highly state dependent (and dependent on how legalization came about and if voters have the power of the ballot amendment).

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Right now all the talk is about snuffing out the black market.
Once the voters don’t support home growing, the penalty for growing will be like a 5 year felony.
Most will not risk that when you can buy it on every corner.

Don’t forget currently they still do oldschool raids in Cali where they come in with the big guns pointed at your head, shoot your dog and grab your weed if you don’t have the right permit.

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You have lived a long life. Good stuff. My apologies for acting childish sometimes. I appreciate your knowledge. What is your smoking method’s?

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I have heard stories. It’s funny how true that is.

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I can’t say I know much about the specifics of California…

It seems to me there’s a bit of a gulf between shutting down black market producers and going after homegrowers. Might there be some enforcement of outdoor plant counts? Maybe… but I’m not expecting my local state government to expend a lot of resources to that end.

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People just need to be de-sensitized to the presence of cannabis. It will come off Schedule 1 and become more and more common everywhere. When people realize cannabis legalization didn’t result in the end of the world, fewer and fewer will care. I’ll put it this way: I know, for a fact, that some people with their “Back The Blue” bumper stickers are pot-heads. Plus, police departments now have Gen-X’ers in positions of senior leadership and Millennials and Gen-Z now make up quite a few of the rank and file. Any cop with half a brain knows the War on Drugs was lost long ago, and busting people for cannabis will only make them that much more unpopular.
Things will change. Things are changing. 5 years from now, people will be asking why cannabis was ever illegal in the first place. Maybe I’m just being vindictive, but I sincerely hope supporting cannabis prohibition will become the new “blackface”: anyone who ever did it will be excoriated.

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Reefer madness is alive and well. Lot’s of people think weed is bad and always will regardless of any anecdote or evidence based approach. It’s some kind of deep ingrained belief. I could understand it about fentanyl or meth but weed? Come on bra give me a break thats a plant here for me and you.

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Meth, fentanyl and cocaine are Schedule 2, while cannabis is still Schedule 1, right next to heroin. The more you think about it, the more abhorrent it becomes. This is especially true when you consider the CSA was predicated on flouting constitutional rights.

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Just a note for Ohioans, believe it or not, Recreational Cannabis legalization (with home growing and a 6 plant limit/person, 12 plants/household) is on the ballot tomorrow. They have the signatures to get it on the ballot this fall, but not if issue 1 passes tomorrow. And should Issue 1 pass and they somehow get enough signatures, it’ll take a 60% super majority to pass in November.

The Ohio legislature made it illegal to have a special election in August, then went ahead and pushed this Issue 1 special election in August in a blatant attempt to circumvent the voters.

Edited to add: ~600,000 early votes have been cast and apparently it’s breaking about even between Yes and No. All it will take to change the percentage of votes for future issues on the ballot is 50% +1 and all future will be 60% to pass should Yes win.

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The scheduling of substances obviously is not based on any scientific criteria. It is tool put in place by a past President to suppress political ideas that they opposed and punish those who held them.

Btw the way I object to the term “legalization “ in regard to cannabis. The politicians have merely said we know about your dirty little secret in your closet, we are going to be your buds and pals and not bust you for your dirty little secret as long as you keep it in your closet. And to show you we are sorry, we will tax the shit out of it and blow smoke up you ass stating it is for social equity programs

My view of legalization is -

Declassify cannabis or at least provide legitimate scientific data to support any classification it is assigned. Btw apparently we have been using this plant for at least 5-10 thousand years without issues.

Home grow without plant limits. Ok I will concede no black market. Face it there are folks who would rather go dispensary than grow their own (who knows maybe more money than time). They will get plenty of taxes just listen to news.

Finally ( as in New York State) you can smoke it any where you can smoke cigarettes. I visited New York at the end of May. At first it was weird as I was carrying the old baggage of prohibition, but it didn’t take long to embrace and enjoy the feeling. Families weren’t running to avoid me, in fact they didn’t pay me no mind.

I hope we get there, just don’t know if will be in my lifetime

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There may not be enough law enforcement personnel to enforce any cannabis laws before too long. Many departments are scraping the bottom of the barrel for people, and are clearly losing control across the country. The solution would have been simple (it’s too late to enact any new laws/policies; the collapse of law enforcement as we know it is at or near critical mass): End the drug war, stop arresting users/low-level dealers and stop arresting people for cannabis, period. The problem is every police department, union, etc. fights every single change that would subtract from their power.
The public is finally realizing We The People outnumber law enforcement by about 340:1, and a lot of people are getting really tired of militarized, heavy-handed cops.

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And Ohio Issue 1 goes down to defeat, opening the way for a vote on recreational cannabis this November!

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We were all rooting for you :four_leaf_clover:

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