Cannabis Current Events (Part 2)

Yep, monied interests don’t want you to grow your own because you just might grow better cannabis for cheaper with none of their chemical anti-pest treatments. You might even grow it organically which is just way too expensive for them.

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If you’re trying to stamp out gangs growing and distributing cannabis homegrow does muddy the waters…though not that much if it’s a stupidly low plant count limit (12 plants muddies the waters, 2 not so much).

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Wow! you seem to be saying 12 plants is too many?
I strongly disagree.
The war on home growing is real, even here on OG? :grimacing:

I have been saying for years that plant counts will soon be shrinking.
But I did not expect to hear that sorta thing from a fellow grower.
This world gets crazier everyday…WTF???

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You really think making something illegal is going to discourage illegal gangs from participating in the black market? One could make the argument that keeping things illegal or constraining a now legal activity actually perpetuates the black market culture for cannabis

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When I share my thoughts… they’re often dispassionate objective thoughts… not what I personally believe (Not that it’s relevant, but I don’t believe in plant counts at all, and while I wouldn’t say I’m pro drug-gangs, I am pro gray market).

Look at the linked article - according to the article one of the stated goals was to stamp out gangs that control the cannabis trade in CR (whether that’s true or to what extent it’s true I cannot say).

When you have a higher plant count, it increases the opportunity for distributing grows across a number of people without fear of enforcement. If people are allowed two plants each, and the authorities crack down on grows larger than that… gangs could distribute it across a large number of people, i.e. 40 people growing leaves them with 80 plants, but 40 people growing 12 plants each = 480. That’s what my prior comment referred to… 2 plants each is stupid, but it stymies organized crime from easily distributing cultivation so they can produce enough product without having to worry about enforcement. Higher plant counts make it a lot easier and reduces the effectiveness of legalization (when it comes to disempowering criminal operations).

It might also help to understand that I was responding to Zolorp’s comment… governments aren’t necessarily banning homegrows just to protect a crappy legal marketplace.

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I’ll just point out that home-distilling of moonshine for personal use is allowed in 5 out of 50 states. Does the illegality of making your own moonshine perpetuate a black market for moonshine? To a limited degree, maybe, but not to a large degree.

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Ok, thanks for the clarification, sorry about the misunderstanding. :upside_down_face:

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I will admit to having envied Massachusetts’ plant count of 12 (technically, 6 per adult over 21, up to 12 per household if there is more than one resident over 21). A person could make do with 12.

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"Only 48 applications will be accepted through a lottery process in October. "

Missouri pot legislation is a joke.

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Michigan’s 12 plants per household even if only one adult resides in the household is my ideal, especially since another dozen plants over that is treated as a misdemeanor with a potential for a fine.I want to move there and am unsure how many cops are really interested in counting your plants.

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It’s my understanding it’s 6 per adult here in CA. I live in a fourplex with a total of six adults (including myself). For my last two crops, I “tended” plants for other residents. Not a chance I could keep up with 36 plants, even if I didn’t have to move them all multiple times a day.

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I am in Michigan, right now I think the focus is on anyone selling outside of a dispensary.
Far as I know care givers can have up to 72 plants, but they have been fighting corporate cannabis to keep that alive.
Not really a lot of gang activity here.
The inner city may have Ganja Gangs, but they are not usually above the board and usually steal the power for the grows.

The war on home growing is real, keep fighting the good fight and Overgrow the world…LOL :sunglasses:

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So would you advise a home growing outlaw to move to Michigan and stop being an Outlaw, asking for a … friend.

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It is pretty laid back here, as long as you don’t plan on selling I would say yes for sure.
The price for an ounce can be as low as $50, not saying it is the good stuff, but weed is dirt cheap.
Don’t get me wrong you can still buy $50 an eighth stuff too.
I grow my own and don’t get in the store much, but I talk to a lot of different folks of all ages.

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If you do wanna sell you could get a microbusiness license.
I am kinda poor but if you have some cash you could look into it.
A Michigan marijuana microbusiness license applicant must pay a non-refundable $3,000 application fee for prequalification . Upon approval, they will pay an initial licensure fee of $8,300. Licensees have to renew their microbusiness license annually for the same amount. A Class A microbusiness license costs $18,600.

A Marijuana Microbusiness License permits the business to:

Cultivate up to 150 plants; Process and create marijuana-infused products from those plants; and. Sell marijuana and marijuana-infused products that are produced by the microbusiness to adults age 21 and up.

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My plan is not to sell. My plan is to use the 12 plants to produce as much as possible, and give away whatever I can’t smoke. :slight_smile:

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I recently heard Minnesota allows something like a vegetable stand.
It is not as simple as I make it sound but that is a good overview.
I did not do the research myself and this is a bit of hearsay but it comes from a good source. :yum:

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That is what I do, I give a lot away or it just gets old.
I have some old stuff right now cause I am shut down but I am happy to have it…LOL

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@Zolorp if you have any questions about where to go ect, feel free to ask me.
I am a lifetime resident, I have been all over this state.
You can PM if you wish, I am cool with that. :sunglasses:

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I was going to say that seems pretty steep but the ability to sell to consumers is huge, if one licensee do all those things with their license that’s a good deal.

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