Sorry, I meant trim the buds off the branches and cure just the buds…
Please don’t bruise me too badly if that is faux pas, lol
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Why would Amazon mylar bags be the same as Groves?
We know why Grove works.
It let’s oxygen in, and co2 out so curing can take place (if the bud is clean enough, has enough protein and hasn’t had all its enzymes deactivated by mold n bug sprays).
A mylar bag that does nothing but leak excess moisture, as the Sweet has advertised, is not a curing bag, it’s a storage bag. I’ve bought plenty of unburped uncured nute flavored weed in mylar bags. The industry lost all respectability the moment I realized no one in the industry grasps the basic concept behind the plant they grow: lipid oxidation.
Who knows. Weed centric companies don’t understand the end goal of their own specialty 99 times out of 100. “Terpene retention” means “we don’t have a clue, but here’s a buzzword”.
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So I think @PiffElement has some great points. Also same for the screenshot person, sorry I didn’t tag you but I liked the post!
Drying and curing is essentially a race against time. Its about preserving quality and reducing the chances of contamination. The 60/60 rule is great of you can keep it at 60f because this temperature is generally low enough to inhibit spoilage from microbes. While I think 60% humidity is the standard for quality, i think if you can sit between about 53-63% you are generally safe. Those numbers are my personal opinion but I hang out with a lot of food scientists who study spoilage and they said that range is probably fine.
If you drop the humidity (which will dry out flowers quicker as a trade off) by too much you risk losing internal water storages that are needed for chemical reactions that break down unstable molecules to stable molecules. Keeping jars closed and limiting oxygen helps prevent oxidation reactions, when old flower is really brown its usually oxidation of the pigments.
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Saying it’s being used incorrectly is super funny because this is from a study by someone with a PhD who works in the industry and studies this stuff. Vpd still relates to drying because it’s a combo of temp and humidity that give you a consistent metric to compare your 2 controlled parameters (besides time) in drying.
You should check out the talk I posted, they studied terpene retention in different methods of drying aswell as the effect of co2 and ethylene which she says they’re working on/going to have to do more studies on. Super cool information in the talk and glad to see there’s people working on getting cold hard data and facts.
This is a neat bit too I forgot to screenshot until now
I forget is she ever mentioned using a wood moisture meter but that seems to be the best gauge if you can’t judge yourself based on time or the “snap test”
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Super funny?..I guess so. FWIW, her paper was posted some time ago. It is an interesting paper that supports a guideline for reducing moisture content in terms that are familiar to the audience.
Temp and humidity of the environment would be the proper metrics. I’m pointing out that VPD maybe a convenient distillation but error is introduced using it in this manner … not that it will matter in the end product but it confuses the mathematical expression for VPD. A simplification is utilized. There are more than two parameters to generate VPD.
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Can confirm what @Northern_Loki is saying.
The reason I was given in grad school for the fancy terms and phrases scientist’s use is because it’s a standardized language so other scientists can know precisely what is being done/discussed.
I understand this line of thought, but I also think our job as scientists is to be able to communicate our findings to others in a way that is clear and usable. I like the 60/60 guideline because it is more approachable for most people. Using a metric that essentially explains evapotranspiration rates is more important when growing and keeping material out of bacterial and fungal danger zones is most important post harvest.
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