Fan leaves pointing down after the stretch.

My Amnesia Haze autos have an issue. Fan leaves on all new growth from during the stretch have their leaflets pointing down. They aren’t wilting, the leaves and petioles are turgid and the petioles are pointing up. The leaflets don’t seem to be “drooping”, so much as it seems like the plant is intentionally(?) directing them to point down. Is this from damage I caused by chronic overwatering during veg? Can this be remediated, or is this run simply going to be stunted and that’s all there is to it?

They are at middle of week 7, temps, humidity, PPFD, pH, and EC are all in line, as far as I can determine. All of the lower, older growth seems healthy, it’s just the tops of the plants that are affected.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

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Light leak or too wet at the roots. The plant thinks it’s raining non stop and droops to drain off rain

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My first impression would be just overwatering … beer3|nullxnull

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I’ve got the same issue happening right now.
Octopot with very few roots in the res.

Agree looks like overwatering

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Pretty sure it’s overwatering for the win but on the bright side it’s easily fixed.

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It’s overwatered

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:sweat_smile:

The joy of being an upperclassman :sunglasses:

Hazing rituals are usually harsh but in this case it’s not so bad. You need a big dose of LITFA & a distraction. (See “LITFA”)

We know this because we all did the same thing for years :joy: and had to ask WTF we were doing wrong too. :call_me_hand:

Try getting something mesh/airy under the pot & always use a drain layer in the future.
Putting a towel under it (mmmhehehe :cat2:) can help wick away some.

:evergreen_tree: aloha

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Not a drainage issue. Plants are in peat/vermiculite/rice hulls, in fabric pots, sitting on pot elevators in saucers, with adequate airflow above and below the canopy. I’ve come to the conclusion that it was chronic over-frequent watering during the earlier weeks in veg (which has since been corrected) that is just now manifesting.

I guess I learned the hard way just how alarmingly light a fabric pot filled with this medium needs to get before it is ready to be watered.

Thanks for not hazing on me too hard, tho! lol

P.S. I haven’t been fiddling around with them, honest! I’ve had the environment dialed in from the start and haven’t been throwing nutes at the problem, or anything. Just been observing this decline over the last few days.

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I would lose the vermiculite. It holds a lot of water. Just my 2 cents.

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Good point with the overwatering… I didn’t think of that 1 right away. I was thinking either magnesium deficiency or potbound… Or salts built up around the root zone

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So true :smiling_face: The more perlite the worse when it comes to plants being blown over by wind. I had to learn the hard way by finding plants on the lawn knocked down & collecting aphids. :unamused:

I ended up putting 3-4 additional pots around them as ballast. (The lawn is on top of solid rock or I’d use stakes).

But all in all the reduced weight is a huge plus.

Yes, the core never got dried enough inside & is low oxygen. To make you feel better :sweat_smile: there may be a 2-zone thing going on with hydrophobic outer soil but soggy center & only repotting will tell. I’ve even found the opposite once with a :cactus: dry coco center.

:evergreen_tree: why did poo emoji come up for cactus? :joy:

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Looks like too much watering buddy

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Some strains have drastic sensitivity’s to over and or under watering. I have a few that if the pot is dry more then 12 hours they will wilt but then the eastern Manipur Burma was able to handle 7 days bone dry before it would wilt and the slightest over watering would cause what you are having occur. The bubba kush even though it’s slow growing consumes water faster then any other one I have. I wish breeders would focus more on things like drought tolerance, heat and cold tolerance , disease resistance etc. Regardless of what some may say about landraces, having stabile traits like the ones mentioned above are priceless breeding tools to fix issues in otherwise great lines.

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Here’s the same bud site today. On the road to recovery. Thank you all for your input!

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Looking much better, great job

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