17 years of daily smoking… took me 10 days of no sleep to start sleeping… nervous system was whacking out big time… panic attack/er vist… thought i was going to die.
was self medicating heavily… my guess was roughly 1000 - 1500 mg per day combination of infused butter and smoking before i left alaska.
i love weed but god damn i got so lost in a fog i had no idea the level of dependence… feel like a different person
I feel that and I’ve only been smoking for 6 years now. I started for medical reasons though. Recreational is just a bonus. Any time I go on a break I have to treat it like an acid trip. Keep everything calm
Welcome back brother.
99%
you lean on anything too hard im guessing you are bound to have some problems…different for everyone im sure
thanks man- still looking forward to growing but pretty sure i need to break for a bit /lmao
i moved out of my hometown for the first time in my life so there were some other factors too but yeah man… thought i might have some trouble sleeping for a couple nights and then be fine… not quite that easy for me:
vivid and intense dreams…
way more interested in stuff around me… was out panning for gold and picking flowers today with my dog lol
-glad im not the only one - not a whole lot of documentation on this kind of stuff
The data will start to amass now that legalization is coming.
There is only one you, and I didn’t come with a user manual. Doubt you did either.
Get to know yourself and the rest will probably be OK.
Glad you are still interested in growing!
99%
Oh yeah, every time I stop I have about 2 weeks of insomnia. I don’t smoke much these days, I’ve realized that I enjoy growing it more than anything else.
gotta hit the Benadryl on those first 1-2 nights without cannabis! helps me get to sleep the first night or two and then I’m OK.
If you want to take a break it helps to just take weed once per day, 1 hour before bedtime for the first 3 days before completely abstaining. That will help with the insomnia and also lower your tolerance a lot over the 3 days.
I used to abstain every time I traveled but these days I’m taking my portable vaporizer everywhere.
I actually have personally found that edibles help keep my tolerance low. I can use 10mg dose ones to keep my calm, but I won’t feel high. Just enough to give my body what it isn’t producing much or any of ATM. Kickstart the biochemistry to restart without a severe break. In my case I need my crazy pills without weed and I won’t take any pills forever after outside of the occasional Valium to stop a panic attack. Though I guess I’m fortunate I don’t need a Xanax 
I can’t get enough THC or CBD in my system to hold back the bad ones during a break. Just enough to keep me from going crazy.
Great subject… even if I’ve been permastoned for a decade ? 
miss getting truly “high”…
The issue is if I don’t, I risk some … bathroom injuries to be vague & polite.
you get the picture…
heh
I do. I have a friend with Crohn’s. I’ve e had to work with him on multiple occasions. He’s gone in full detail in person, so I don’t have to gross anyone out asking with all the consequences of eating spicy food for example. Trust me and if you’re curious look it up people. I always say that people should try to learn at least 1 new thing a day. Keeps the mind fresh.
i think i just blasted my system too hard for too long… was taking benadry, doxylimine, chamomile tea mixed with a nausiating amount of melted butter for sleep… even then, it was hit or miss whether i would sleep well.
…i would get so obsessive with dependencies that i convinced myself i absolutely needed weed to sleep and over the years added those other things along with high dose of infusion over the last year&1/2 of growing
had to relearn how to sleep naturally.
was also taking 6mg daily clonazepam for the last 7 years … came down to montana with my last ~150mg after tapering down- lasted about 5 days (didn’t have butter and coulnd’t smoke heavy so i amped up the benzo). dont remember much of the trip. dont think that helped with the sleep / panic either… though i feel like the thc was the main culprit that led to insomnia… it’s hard to be sure with all of the factors… toward the end before i left i was melting so much butter into hot chocolate/tea that i was feeling straight drunk off of it… slurring speech and hard to walk straight… i dont even know how much i was doing.
appreciate all the responses… been internalizing most of this, it was good to be able to write it out and get some feedback
sleeping naturally now for the first time since i was 16.
<3
Glad things are turning upward.
Stay well gro bro!
99
i guess it goes without saying… but exercise…like a 16 year old did, also helps, (if you’re able).
turning the compost pile always ensures a sore back! 
definitely- running daily now.
reading back through this it sounds pretty ridiculous… it really seems like a case of musi…chemical chairs… you go to a doctor for example and say you aren’t sleeping well so they put you on some more stuff…you start to think you need it when really… what i needed was to clean out my system… a long time ago
better late than never.
like 99 said… know yourself.
part of me wants to roll up a joint and enjoy some montana sun… but i think i need to check myself for a bit 
afterall, i’m quite enjoying the feeling of being unmedicated and getting sleep
thanks again guys- glad to be back on og
sounds like you may have been fighting to get normal after those years of benzos too, very scary stuff for me, you should congratulate yourself on getting off after 7 years 
Just a few months of it screwed up my brain 