Helluva deal, was just looking two days back, it’s 25.99$ plus tax per bag out here. I get 15% so a little less but nowhere near that deal! SCORE! looking good so far, heard good things about End Game. Looking forward to seeing what you produce.
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Really? I’ve found very little info on this strain. What have you heard??? Thank you for your time !
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I’ve drooled over Ethos over on SHN for almost a year until I decided to pull the trigger on this pack. Before these, I tried to germinate some Keylime Pie from Ocean Grown but none of them popped. I’ve popped seeds the same was since I was 14 and it’s always worked. Customer support was nonexistent and I couldn’t get the vendor or Ocean Grown to email me back so I boycott OG now lol.
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Just two people I know who grew it out and loved it, super frosty, terps galore I’ve been told. I’m sure I’ll get to smoke some soon as well. ha I too boycott lumberjack/OG as I placed an order like 2-3 years ago, never received the package and they never responded to a single message, I gave up and it actually steered me towards one of my favourite breeders now so.
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Pitiful. I looked up to Vader when I was younger, left an awful taste in my mouth so fuck em lol. $100 donated to his speech therapy I guess 
I’m still salty
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Bahaha I was the same actually, looked up to those guys for a while, after that I’ve told everyone I can to avoid their product, and tbh I was eyeballing 5 strains at the time but wanted to try before buying a large amount. Glad I did cuz I was only out 125$ .
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Just watered the babies with 2 pinches of Epsom and just a smidge of molasses. #1 still has the spots but hopefully it just stays on that leaf. She’s a little behind but in my experience, the runty ones always shine through in the flower quality and smoke. Fingers crossed 
Now it’s time to douse them with a big dose of LITFA
Saturday night I’m going to mix the FFOF, happy frog, and earth worm castings in my tote and let it marinate until transplant time.
-Atlas
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I have a question for you guys. So, to my knowledge, LED lights make your plants use more calcium and magnesium. What’s the best, readily available and organic source of calcium and magnesium? Another question for the old heads. I know molasses has 41mg of calcium and 48mg of magnesium per tablespoon, but is that enough?
Thanks in advance guys!!
-Atlas
I doubt that…
Best organic source of calcium I know of is dandelion: 10% calcium.
I often topdress with it. You can mix it into a fresh batch of soil as well.
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@Rogue Thank you! And I’m no expert on LED lights, just what I’ve read and seen on YouTube lol. I grew outside for years so this whole indoor thing is pretty new to me. I’m ALWAYS willing to learn new things so any advice at all is appreciated.
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Whole lotta nonsense out there… the best teacher is still experience.
I’ve learned that the more lazy I am the better my plants grow.
It’s called weed for a reason… it doesn’t need much, it grows in fucken deserts! 
Most important info anyone can give you is LITFA, most of the time.
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I get that, there’s a whole lotta LITFA with outdoor as well. The more I gawked at them, the slower they grew and the less progress I saw lol. I’ve just been opening the tent when it’s time to water and other than that, just believing that they’re doing fine lol.
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From a quantum perspective that’s the most powerful thing you can do right there!
To trust mother nature, who created us and all life on this planet…
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I agree… to an extent. Forget watering for TOO long and thats all she wrote. But honestly, more people screw up plants from overcaring for them, than from undercaring. They will take an immense amount of abuse I have learned…
Anything I do outdoor is LITFA now. First, theres a problem with giant beautiful 12’ tall plants in a state that its still illegal to grow your own in. They attract attention. So that means off-property. And the more you visit them the more obvious your trail becomes. I try to prep the planting area, toss in 12" pre-sexed females then don’t bother with them much, maybe look 1x a month until flowering. By not babying them they look a bit torn and tattered, yellow leaves, etc, but they blend in much better. Still yield plenty fine though, especially for no care thru the summer… If I had them in a place they could be babied, might be able to double the yield, but I really don’t need to…
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Definitely agree. It’s illegal where I am too. When I was growing outdoors, I’d veg them for 2 months indoors and top as many times as I could. Then set them outside in pre prepped holes in mid May. Water them in one good time and LITFA. They wouldn’t get over 5’ tall but they would be 7’ wide bushes. Depending on the strain, I’d still get 1.5-2 units per plant. Between 10 plants, I’d have the money for bills for the whole next year and still have a couple pounds left over to smoke on.
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Where I am, there’s not a lot of growers here at all. All the weed is imported from legal states. Battered and beat tf up. So fresh, good quality outdoor pounds are $2,000-$2,500. Indoor pounds are $3,000-$3,200. If it was a good harvest, I’d get 20 units give or take. I’d sell 18 of them to a long time friend of mine for $2,000 and make $36k and have 2 units to smoke on. That covers all of my yearly expenses for the next year and still have some left over to reinvest into my grow, on top of my day job. Growing outdoors has really blessed me in a lot of ways over the years. I’m very grateful to the plant and the community that taught me so much.
-Atlas
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That garbage is driving prices down though even on good shit. Friend of mine is selling that shit, I smoked him up, he gave me such a lowball offer I won’t even smoke with him now. It was insulting, and I quote “Dude, its just homegrown”. Just keep the good shit for me and let them deal with that garbage. I have more colors, terps, smells and flavors in 6 jars here than he’s had in every bag combined he’s sold in total in the past year. “Just Homegrown”. Yeah, its not WALMART grown dude… Some people.
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Im running 1 end game right now not sure if its female or male yet though. grow looks good ill be stopping by to compare lol
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Bad growers have given “home grown” a bad name. Which would you rather have, a homegrown tomato, or a Walmart bought bland hydro pale red tomato? Maybe it is just “home grown” but one, you know exactly the genetics. Two, it hasn’t been abused and sitting in hot trunks being shaken around in turkey bags on a cross country trip. And three, you know EXACTLY what’s in it. No fiberglass, no chemicals, no bullshit. And in my experience, a lot of commercial weed is literally flavorless. Most of it doesn’t even really have a smell because the heat has made all the esters evaporate. Freshly cured home grown bud always has been, still is, and always will be head and shoulders above commercial weed. If anyone disagrees, lemme grab a jar or two. Let’s compare. Put your money where your mouth is.
Bottom line, if you know what tf you’re doing, growing it yourself will ALWAYS produce a better product than anything you can find on the streets.
Super baked and passionate rant over lol
-Atlas
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Regular end game or the punchline that I have? If it’s the same as mine, they’re all fem seeds.
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