You could definitely try it with casting. Technically you don’t even need compost or castings…even your yard soil should have good microbes in it and they would explode in population. A handful of earthworm castings, a teaspoon of unsulphured molasses, and a gallon of water with a fish bubbler
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ill give it a go in these next few days, ill crack some as well.
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Going to try to make it out to last year’s Malana patch to see if anything came up on its own. I think hundreds of seeds came off of the plants. Kicking myself in the ass for not planting some there this year. Just wasn’t in the cards I guess. This would have been the year too. I’ve only had two Frost’s so far and only down to 30 degrees
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Have you tried a ‘germination bomb’?
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i dont believe so, could you explain the process? I don’t know the reference, happy for any suggestions.
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But did he know to try it on seeds and not buds? (large smile)
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I’m going through the same things with some seeds meant for FBSC 
Even soaked the cubes in coconut water for the supposed added cytokinins & gibberellins
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Have you tried castings? Use the paper towel method, but add castings and place the seeds on top. Johnny potseed having good luck this way . Probably fresh castings would be ideal.
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I have had good results using kelp water with seeds.
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I’m going to give both a shot when I get back home. I’m not discouraged, but I’m getting frustrated.
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Unfortunately, unless you cracked a fresh coconut open or went to a great deal of effort, the coconut water you soaked them in has probably been sterilized. It’s tough to find real, fresh coconut water in our neck of the woods. Chilled Coconut Liquid Products | Coconut Handbook
If it’s not refrigerated, it’s definitely not going to have much; I couldn’t find anything near me that was even refrigerated as far as coconut products, much less anything that I could verify was unpasteurized or pasteurized at low temps… probably for good reason, since it’s nowhere near local and out of season to boot. It’s a neat idea, what with coconuts being the largest seed on the planet, but I’m coming to the conclusion that a regular SST is probably the best most of us can get.
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When I say “coconut water”, I mean this freeze dried coconut flakes from BAS shaken vigorously… do you think that’s fair game, or a waste of $ ?
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Oh, interesting… that certainly has encouraging warning labels, anyway. 
“NOTICE: ONLY MAKE WHAT YOU CAN USE THAT DAY. There aren’t any preservatives and the best use is only for immediate consumption.”
Considering that BAS tends to know their stuff, and that cytokinins are one of the more important regulators of plant response to freezing in the first place, I’d be inclined to think that should work based on my 3 minutes of research. Not exactly exhaustive, but hey. 
Good call, that’s probably fine.
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Need someone with a worm bin to donate some fresh vermicompost. Icmag has a thread germinating 25 year old Afghani seeds or something to that effect. Fresh vermicompost gave 90% + germination and no other method produced any results.
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Damn. With this new job, I dont even have the time to hit the grow shop and ask the manager if he “knows a guy”. I have some harvested/bagged worm castings, think it’d be a waste to try with that?
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@Upstate I modified Johnny’s method slightly. Goat castings work (I had near 100% success), and I am confident that rabbit would work because, I’m assuming, any manure that you can use straight from the source would work. Rabbit is fine without having to break down first.
That’s my .02
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A little goes a long way.
You know the standard Chinese takeout containers, 9" diameter, round, black bottom, with a clear snap-down lid?
1/4" of worm castings patted down can pop a lot of beans. I followed JP’s protocol for germination tests this summer & I was impressed.
Cheers
G
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