Yup as an inoculate your right … composting is all variable dependent heat, moisture, air and a bit of time … my compost heaps start getting up to about 120-130 degrees in 2-3 days, cold composting takes a bit longer to do like my mulched leaves just layed on top .
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Thankyou curious cat for that nutrient list! I was hoping to see something like that!
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Glad it could be of use.
Been looking into compost teas or the knf style from vegetation/weeds . Have plenty of stinging nettles around and some plants with flowers, nasturtiums and some other.
Also read something that made sense. Making fermented juices from the leftovers from previous grow of the plant you want to grow and the actual part as to isolate certain nutrients and hormones. Saving time and energy because it’s stuff that the plant can already assimilate with a little less effort.
I was looking at some of the nettles and how they in way resemble cannabis in its structure.
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You are welcome 
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Good point @Tinytuttle. I dont want to kill the good fungus i just collected. Perhaps i jumped the gun a bit… i just brought it to a brightish corner of my garden. I was going to add it to my FRESH compost. Glad you stopped me! I’ll cover it and make one large pile of it for now to protect the fungal colonies. When i add it to my container soil do i chop it up a bit and mix it in or do I use a pile at the bottom of the container?
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Would last years roots be of any use? They’ve been on the ground all winter but still look reletively fresh(ish)… my uncle taught me about nettles and comfrey for cannabis. I’ve seen an incredible growth spurt from fermented nettles with my own eyes. It has to be seen to be believed! How would i use dead fish in KNF? I’m a fisherman and could gather a bunch in short order. I would love to make my own fishmeal…the local Indians used fish carcasses under their plants here in the past. I’ve read about 2 foot ears of corn on 20 foot stalks! No bs. (Read on General Sullivan’s 1779 campaign against the Iroquois for first hand accounts. ) I would do the same thing but critters dig it up in my experience.
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I’m a big fan of Hugelkultur. I have 4 beds in my garden all Hugel and I’m putting in three more this year. My beds are not mounds but flat beds. I dug them out about 3 -4 feet when I made them.
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try this:
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I read somewhere that you can do FFj by placing fish leftovers in some form of barrel, drum buck etc. The fish+initial amount of water should represent 1/3 of the total volume. Can’t remember if you add brown sugar/molasses and LABs and let rest for a week. Then let rest for some months… Roughly what I remember.
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I don’t know. But using them and experimenting I guess won’t hurt…
Care to share the method?
I am also wondering if I could make FFJ from store bought organic fruit juice, add sugar and let that fermenting.
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Does anyone have a link to a comprehensive source for information about KNF. Like real science and data vs some hippy rambling about nature? (no offense to hippies and nature lol)
The reason I ask is because although these techniques do seem to work and be beneficial, I have trouble understanding how and why.
For example we introduce lactobacillus to milk to create an anaerobic environment which the bacteria need to grow and thrive, but then we take our serum and spray it onto leaves in the light and breeze of a grow environment (aerobic). Wouldn’t the bacteria all just die?
Also, assuming they do colonize the leaves, what are they eating to stay alive? And if lactobacillus is everywhere in the air why wouldn’t the leaves be colonized naturally already?
Just some thoughts…
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You aren’t feeding the plants the bacteria, you are creating conditions for the beneficial bacteria to thrive so they can digest more ”food" and breakdown sugars, nutrients and other essential nutrients for the plants and soil they live in. That’s why it’s so important to have a living soil, apart from the worms, beatles and all other bugs bacteria and fungi are what break things up into macro and micro nutrients that plants can’t breakup.
That is why you have recipes made of different ingredients rich in a determined set of nutrients and then used according to the needs of a plant’s stage of development.
In veg stage you use nitrogen rich and growth rich plant matter and labs.
In bloom you use flowers+fruits and labs.
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Cool, thanks! I understand all that for the most part, I don’t understand how an anaerobic bacteria is supposed to live in an aerobic environment seemingly without a food source (foliar labs).
I’d love to get an expensive microscope to be able to actually see the bacterial colonies and get an idea of what they’re doing…
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@Upstate , the old Indian way works a treat . I remember reading way back how native Indians used to bury fish carcasses at the bottom of their holes and then Plant corn , squash and beans
( not 100% on the last one ) they sowed these together because they worked out these plants are mutually beneficial to each other …
With this in mind part of my prep for the season is
:: Minimum of 2 large fish carcasses- I leave mine complete rather than filleting them . These go at the bottom of each hole , with a half cup of an organic veggie fertiliser and a handful of Epsom salts . Then I fill the hole up with goodness … and as we say
Bobs ya uncle !!
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Howzit @Tommy_McCain
Interesting , I was on the roughly the same track …
How are the beds performing mate . Is the top of the bed contained in anyway ?
Are they holding shape , how high above ground do they come ?
Do you find they require less watering ?.
I think in the right location this style of bed could a winner for the outlaws among us 
Sorry lots of questions 
lol is exactly what I posted in the video above and yes it will sugar same weight of sugar and fish.
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You got it, they called these plants the ‘3 sisters’ and used them together because they formed a symbiotic relationship and helped each other.
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Pretty sure water is not added in KNF the brown sugar pulls moisture from the fish and the result after aging is diluted 10:1 ratio per weight
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I’ve done it both ways. I use water to help make a slurry in the blender.
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