Harmful fertilizer

All this talk of fluoridation…

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couldn’t disagree more. Perhaps getting cancer at age 20 and living with disability and chronic pain for decades affected my perspective - with no trace of cancer ever appearing in my family history before me. My sister then got it by age 40.

Odds of an American getting cancer lifetime 1900: 1 in 22. Odds today: 40% and rising (10 times increase in the last 120 years). 1 in 4 American boys now have neurological deficits.

If someone brushes their teeth once per day with fluoride-containing toothpaste, there is no possible benefit from adding more fluoride to the water. So cities and towns that add fluoride (the only place in the whole world that adds fluoride is the USA and mostly only the older northeastern municipalities) are adding an endocrine-disrupting, carcinogenic, neurotoxic chemical to the drinking water ostensibly to reach the few indigent children in town who do not brush their teeth even once per day and whose parents don’t go to town hall public health dept. to pick up the free brushes & toothpaste offered there. That is the situation in my town of wealthy white people.

The only recourse is to have the Poland Spring water truck come to your house every week or install a $7,000 RO filtration system in the basement, which many if not most families in town have done. The town next to us voted to remove fluoride from the water after it started coming from China - so our town’s “City Council” voted to ban the population from voting on it.

The human ego is fascinating to me, and on display as people get COVID shots. If a person gets a medical treatment and does well, or does not get cancer from consuming toxic chemicals, then automatically those things are judged best for EVERYONE. Meanwhile, the 1% or 10% or 50% of people that get horribly damaged…don’t matter so much. That’s the way the human ego works. What’s good for me is good for you!

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btw here’s a fantastic book for anyone that wants to know what’s it’s like to be hit by the cancer epidemic - best one I’ve seen:

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This is how the majority of towns / select boards in MA operate.

Our town voted to increase the number of signatures required for a recall. The new amount is greater than the actual population within the town :upside_down_face:

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Gotta give you a lil push back on the fluoride and iodized salt.
There are plenty of nations who don’t put fluoride in the drinking water and traditionally have nice teeth like a lot of Jamaicans and Africans.
You don’t need fluoride in you water when you eat right.
Iodized salt is bad for you. Again eat right and you’ll get what you need from food.
I suggest more plant matter. Seafood pretty good.
Lastly America is one of if not the least healthy developed nation in the world, that old school food pyramid cost a lot of people their life. They still pushing dairy till this day and cow milk simply isn’t for humans

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Also human to human transmission of disease and viruses is much higher than animal to human of course.

Man if I step in dog shit I’m like come on man. But I’ll clean it off if possible and keep my shoes. But if I step in some human shit those shoes are trash no matter the cost.
If I aint changing a baby then human shit contact I have 0 tolerance for. It’s why I don’t drink tap water if cause the water report always has an entry for acceptable levels of fecal material and there is know acceptable level to me especially if we talking human feces and the report doesn’t specify. No thanks

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saw the old triangle somewhere on a gov sight not long ago , was like amazed its still being used

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Don’t eat peanut butter or preground coffee either, if your worried about contaminations that is…

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Maaan you can’t even talk about fertilizer without folks going on neo-Luddite anti-vax anti-western-medicine rants.

@Muleskinner sucks you got cancer man but one thing don’t mean the other. Had a 5 year old dog get cancer does that mean it was vaccines and fluoride? No…it just happens sometimes, uptick is explainable through better diagnosis and longer lives in general. People didn’t used to be “autistic” they called them “simple” or “touched in the head”. People didn’t have “leukemia” they were “ill”. You see what I’m saying?

You can get a way cheaper R/O system, btw. Fluoride isn’t dangerous, which is why it’s still added. They add bleach to water too surprised that isn’t an issue with y’all lol.

@MrRevolution They probably eat less sugar, they don’t live as long, they tend to simply have teeth pulled instead of fixed, and there’s probably a genetic component as well. Inuit used to have good teeth too, but they ate a lot of seafood and never ate sugar. Iodine isn’t bad for you, people used to get goiters the size of softballs and they ate nothing but local organic meats and vegetables. There is a good reason we iodize salt.

There isn’t enough seafood in all the world’s oceans for everyone.

If cow milk is bad for humans, tell that to my pediatrician, who may know a touch more than someone who watched a youtube video.

This is gonna fuck you up, but there’s a tiny amount of feces on almost everything. Bug, human, animal, bird, pretty much all food everywhere.

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Notice I specified Human feces as being my main concern.
And if you don’t understand why cow milk isn’t for humans without watching youtube then you aren’t very observant.
But yea science also agrees. It’s why most people are lactose intolerant to a degree.
And america has the one of the lowest life expectancy of most developed nations so why do you keep using them as/us as a metric?
And your info about fluoride/teeth is false.
If the US government mandates something for civilians it’s either for economic gain or freedom suppression.

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My experience with my government does not resemble this.

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You know what else is bad for you?

Smoking cannabis.

But it’s ok because the government made me do it.

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ooo do tell me how you know more than my dentist about teeth and fluoride lol

yes yes nothing is as it seems government all bad…can’t argue with belief

As far as our lower life expectancy, I’d say it has much more to do with lifestyle diseases and our lack of socialized medicine over freakin’ iodized salt and fluoridated water but hey…what do I know.

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Obviously there’s a million criticisms that could be leveled at the US government but who has the time, they aren’t without sin, but taken as a whole…they do a pretty good job. Better than most places.

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Cows milk is absolutely fine for people to drink.

The problem is in the quantity and quality of said milk.

All animal products should almost certainly be consumed in smaller quantities than they currently are.

Raw milk from grass fed cows, or rather, milk from cows that live a healthy life and eat a healthy diet,
is much more digestible by the human body. The microbes and enzymes present in the milk help to break down the lactose. Our current laws and agricultural practices make this type of milk difficult to come by in the US, you can find it, but it takes some work to get it.

Corn isn’t digestible by the human gut, and people figured that out ages ago and began nixtamalizing it when they figured out it made it more digestible and the nutritious.

There is lots of anti cattle information out there, and I feel it makes nearly everyone miss the point. The point should be healthier people and a more sustainable agriculture. Spreading propaganda only serves to support the status quo, which is decreasingly nutrient dense factory farmed crap.

If people care enough to make a change, and that change is to not buy dairy, that is a bunch of people who are WILLING to adapt, who have opted out when they could be supporting a farmer who is doing things the right way. This is the way to take back or food systems, with truth, understanding, and supporting the little guys doing it right.

I’ll burn the soap box one of these days…not today

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There’s a reason humans stop breastfeeding at a certain age and it’s not because of size of child. Humans lose the ability to properly metabolize milk after a certain age.

Milk is pushed simply for profit. No self respecting nutritionist is gonna recommend dairy to you.
Oh and corn is also pushed for profit, it is not easily digestible which is why you always have recognizable corn in your stool. If it still looks like corn after you pass it then you haven’t digested it.
I’m American but I’m not blind. And education doesn’t stop after schooling of any level.
Some of you seem to have missed place pride in this land and that’s not a substitute for education wich doesn’t stop end at American shores. If you do that then you’ll have a biased and probably incorrect view of things.
But hey I never meant to offend anyone and everyone is free to carry on living however they see fit. I’m not anyone’s keeper or judge

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Define pretty good job as we rank near the bottom of most quality of life stats vs other developed nations

There about 195 or so sovereign nations depending on who you ask. When I was in school, actually studying these things, a common metric was HDI. Whose quality of life stats, what specific metrics?

United States is 17 of 195-ish in HDI.

Doing pretty good. Room for improvement, but taken as a whole…

People do like to speak in idealistic platitudes, just saying the data doesn’t always show it.

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When you(not you personally) have a stuck up I’m number 1 attitude then yea 17 is pretty low. Subjectivity and such

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But yea your right I shouldn’t have thrown around terms like ranked at the bottom when actual numbers are there to referenced.

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