Hey folks new to the cloning game and recently some clones are looking a little rough most of them have been transplanted over a week ago with no nutrients receiving about 5,000 lumens temperature is roughly 76° with 60% humidity all the sudden the Clones are bending over in the corner as well noticed little black mushy stems on some of them
The real question at hand is does anyone have any advice on my rooted clones what could be the reason for cupping and droopiness how much water should they receive?all that have been potted have had a good root system
Now the mushy clones can I cut the stem back and completely clean out the cloner …or does that affect the time span of rooting
Two shout outs @JohnnyPotseed @Budderton
Anybody I welcome to chime in …I need some good material
At 74 degrees though? prolly deff does get hotter in there mid day
So should my approach be lower temp …how about humidity shoukd I wait till all are dry before watering …
How about nutes wait till they get straightened out ?
Sorry for all the questions bro I just wanna get them straightened out and outta here
No nutes until you got em right cuz.
the mushy ones, if stem is long enough it might work cutting them back and trying again, not sure there.
Wait until dry before watering again, then only small amounts to judge effect.
I have that exact cloner and had better luck cloning in rapid rooter plugs for some reason. I had mushy, droopy clones and whatnot from the bubble cloner too. Most took too long to root also. Not sure what I did wrong either buy I can clone great by plugs and a dome.
Thanks they deff did green up petty good some of them anyway and I noticed the drier ones are the healthier of the bunch
I slacked the last time and just threw more clones in replaced of the rooted ones but have washed throughly since…ahh I guess time shall tell …I did cut two back and within a hour they droopedd.thanks for the feed back!
Past two times I had almost 90% success with it !!..no dome …lower humidity then normal…this time I got caught slacking I think …crazy though switch to another method and have great success. Just goes to show some methods r better then others for certain people!
I’ve had pretty much the same success with trays/humidity domes, as I have with cloners. I had 2 EZClone low profile cloning boxes (64 site & 128 site) also several I made myself. After seeing the time& rate was about the same for any of em, I figured hell with all the electric bills! lol
So switched back to tray/domes
You know it bro !sounds like you got it down …
14 days is the fastest for me not that impressive on speed though
I don’t really care for consistency of the sprayers and the pump has to be dead center and all the nozzles facing the right way yadda yadda .worked good in cooler weather for me but now warmer weathers here …warmer water more bacteria especially with pump running
EZCloner scimped on 2 things, the size of pump used and the number of emitters. I upped the pump and added more emitters. The pumps always heat up the res temps. So, especially in a commercial setup, where time is money, to lose an entire crop of clones due to high res temps, is not acceptable!
lol I actually helped them improve the box with a couple of tips. The newer boxes have the beveled out port for tubing, i told em use the idea no charge. lol
The first one I got from em didn’t have that, so I cut the 2 sides and bent it out myself.
You are right, the pumps need further work.
But I give them full points on their customer service, I had a bad pump (one pole wasn’t connected so sometimes the pump wouldn’t start). A bit of back and forth and they shipped me a new one… to Canada… and didn’t want to see the old one come back either.
I converted the cloner from pump to 3" round air stone, that got the temps down but the results are still far from OK.
I bought 2 water chillers through Amazon (of course,lol) 1 for each cloning box. 5 yrs ago they were just over $500 each. Put a pump into res (bottom of cloning box) running to the chiller, then run the return hose from chiller to the box. I set the chillers at 65 degrees to offset the heat made from 2 pumps. 1 to the chiller, 1 to the manifold. Worked great!
I also had 2 - 6" round airstones in each
