Standby. I require 3 hours to make a clever comeback.
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It must make bath time challenging 
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Apparently you need longer than that, I haven’t seen one from you yet.
You have no idea. Actually you do.
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We have rules of decorum here that prevent me from engaging fully with you.
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Like what, “if a point is made that I don’t agree with, just attack the person that made it and then whine about their tone in response?”
It’s okay. You were wrong. You should have just admitted that you didn’t read the study posted, and then definitely not made some rude comment about me not reading. If you’d have apologized instead of doubling down, we wouldn’t have to be doing this. What, you think you’re going to disrespect me and not get a response? Nah. You picked the wrong one to try that on.
I’ll at least admit that I’ve been a dick in response to you and SS420 being rude, but my arguments hold water regardless. You’ve been too afraid to even offer an argument of substance, let alone a moment of self-reflection towards your consistently hostile replies, and still are.
@toastyjakes 
hello? 
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I refer you to my previous comment and wish you a good day.
So maybe there is something making the plants sick but it’s not what we think? The pathogens could have always been in the plant but when the immune system breaks down it takes over. Cloning for a long period of time and not providing proper holistic plant health will eventually stress dna repair and open the door for disease? I don’t feel the technology is good enough to give accurate results at this time. Maybe viroid testing is the next big money grab and it’s totally worthless? We have to ask these questions. Because the science is not settled on this at all.
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That’s referring to sterilizing the medium for prevention of pathogenic fungi and bacteria. It does not reference hlvd.
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The oregon legal market has stringent plant testing regulations, and barcoded plant tracking for the whole lifetime of the plant. HLVD testing is mandatory. This helps limit and negate spread.
Any cutting available in a nursery or dispensary has passed the mandatory testing and is confirmed clean. (I only get commercial cuts directly from the nursery so there is no chance of contamination from unsafe handling in a retail dispensary.)
Not to say HLVD isn’t a problem in oregon. It is still a concern. It is a problem which is being addressed with extreme caution to protect the extremely high commercial value of the legal cannabis and hemp market in this state.
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Make more sense for me on this point now, thanks for your valuable input.
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haha yeah. We need our resident boron expert.
Seriously guys, everyone is concerned about this, so I can understand that it’s a pretty stressful topic.
But can’t we all try to have a productive conversation here? This is a concern for the whole community, so let’s come together as a community to protect our gardens against this risk.
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No problem @Fuel
I love this line haha… I do eat the leaves and put them in my smoothies haha
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And your type is why the ignore button is so useful.
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I love the ignore and the mute button. We have one of each. 
Cancelled just in my world.
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You’re correct that it requires some damage to the leaf or stem to release sap/fluid that transmits the viroid. on the tumi genomics website, there is a section about whether or not the virus spreads via a gardener handling the plants.
that says even very slight damage or “micro-tears” in the leaf or stem from casual handling of the plants while watering, brushing up against the plants while working, or bending the plants like stress training is enough to spread the virus by handling multiple plants.
So I think transmission to adjacent plants through the foliage is possible if there is any slight damage to a leaf or stem on an infected plant.
It seems that water runoff, soil, and plant matter in soil are considered to be more concerning transmission vectors, and would probably be bigger factors for transmission to nearby plants.
It’s cool that you are taking these precautions with a thorough testing regiment.
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Yes, and as I said before, if a medium is sterile, then viruses and bacteria are inherently dead. If they’re not dead, then the medium isn’t sterile.
It’s not specifically to prevent/treat Hplvd, but that is an overarching theme of the paper and it saying that H2O2 is an effective method of sterilization for soil (and seeds) is enough for me to believe at face value since, remember, that was the point that I made originally.
Ironically it was also the point that the paper was originally posted to rebut (SS420 not having read that I wasn’t talking about tools before offering his input), and also the point that the paper corroborates
Thanks for at least honestly engaging though.
I don’t understand why people are freaking out about this. I must be growing on another planet. I just don’t see it. Thanks a lot @Mrgreenthumb Look at what you’ve done.
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Well it’s a clone thing, and with people connecting and sharing at a faster and faster rate + the way its spread and detection limitations make it a real threat…
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