This is so cool I love it! I love hearing how other people use the app, gives me tons of perspective. I havent really ever considered hydro usage as i’ve never done hydro so hard to know the kind of requirements. Im super excited about re-writing the app, got tons of ideas I could never do on the current version.
You can use the water function and just fill out the pH and EC, all the fields are optional and will only show the inputted data. There’s no ‘wrong’ way to use the app! use it how it best suits you and your needs
Gotcha, I may have to start doing that then and see how it goes Would make the graphs more useful for sure and should be cleaner… at the least more informative.
About the only change or issue I can think of is all my nutes are liquid except for Epsom Salt. So my default nutrient dosing is in ml/L but Epsom Salt is dosed in grams/L or mg/L and I don’t have a good way to put that in. Its either put it in with some form of ml/l that I arbitrarily assign, which is not accurate at all, or I add it in in the notes at the bottom but then its not in the graph. I realize adding a toggle or something for it to have two different measurement amounts could potentially mess up the graphs completely so not sure of a good way to do that… but wanted to mention it
Thanks for all the work on this app though, it’s been super helpful and nothing else is close to it.
Thanks that means a lot. Very good point about additives as solids. I guess you don’t dissolve it in liquid you case a layer and plain water (in the case of a notill) so would likely need to be its own logging action, or could possibly be added as a new kind of ‘additive’ like an ‘amendment’ that is focused on solids with weights rather than liquids with volume
? are you using actual bleach or pool shock as there is a difference.
Your standard bleach is sodium hypochlorite, pool shock is Calcium hypochlorite.
If the former the extra sodium can and does effect things, well it all does in general but its a fix to a point, ive stopped using pool shock for the most part but im not doing hydro and my res water gets used up till it gets replaced by a new batch which helps with bacteria build up vs just topping up my reservoirs. Past observation was that usually if issues presented themselves a “shock” dose followed by light dosing on a longer time frame like every 5+ days to tapering off completely made happier plants, than say more frequent periodic dosing, but im definitely no expert here so …
I’m using actual plain regular clorox bleach. I had used it before on the Godberry run. I switched to poolshock for these two(purple mac/russian snow) and faced nothing but issues with it. I’m now back to dosing clorox bleach and things are happy again.
I do realize that bleach is sodium and poolshock is calcium based, and that theoretically the poolshock would be better, as sodium is bad for plants but I couldn’t get any growth with poolshock.
Again, everything I’ve read says you need 3-5ppm of free chlorine in the water to disinfect without hurting your plants. Read again that 0.1g poolshock/10 gallons = 1ppm free chlorine. I did the math to get around 3ppm and for these two plants that meant they’d never get roots in the water. I tried for 33 days and nada.
So I reset the res and went to ~3ppm chlorine from straight bleach and immediately saw explosive root growth. Chlorine off-gases, and bleach in general dissipates, really easily in oxygenated water so it’d be gone inside 48hrs at the amount I’m using which is why I dose on the 3rd day, religiously. Can also tell just from smell. I don’t know of any sodium build-up though from the bleach dissipating, I’ve seen zero documents about that, figure worst case is drain and reset res every 10-14 days or so to make sure no sodium build-up but I’m just guessing.
Alright another update! I was gonna do a comparison shot of the roots from start in the res with poolshock to ~30 days later with poolshock. And then another comparison with day 1 of clorox to day 8 of clorox use but eh, all the pics are already on this thread so no real point there, can just look up
So on with the show!
Russian Snow on the left is ~15" tall, Purple MAC on the right is ~14" tall
Think it might be flower time soon. They’re both putting on about an inch a day, so at that rate I’m not sure I can wait until June 1st to flip, we’ll see what happens.
She has about 12 roots in the water already, ppm’s are a bit high at just under 400 or ~0.79 EC but she should pull right through here.
and the Blue Dream from HSO is finally up and out of her shell! She was standing that far out the top of the rooter and had a full helmet that would not budge. I tried watering it a couple times to see if it’d help loosen it but after a day it looked the same. So I literally cut the shell off and then pulled the membrane off and now she’s looking fine.
will get her planted in an airpot with FFOF at the bottom 1/3 and FFHF for the top 2/3. See how that goes. She’s gonna be my soil/12-12 from seed experiment.
In other news, I picked up another tent, LA Garden 32"x32"x63" as I don’t think my 2x2x4 is going to work for this auto and there’s no room in the 3x3 for her tote. Not the tent sized I wanted really… but I have to redo this entire room ReikoX style if I want to get any 4x4 or larger tent(s) in here
Said screw it and flipped to flower today. They’re tall enough and I need to make sure there is enough room in the tent since there’s more than just 2 plants in there… I stuck the Godberry mom in there. She’s looking like she might autoflower as-is and I have so many beans to get to there is zero point keeping her around.
Thanks to @Tappy I switched the garden over to Maxibloom+Silica instead of Aqua Flakes+Calimagic+Epsom. I may still need the epsom but this is way easier to do (sans all the shaking). My aqua flakes are expiring or something as I suddenly have crystals everywhere in/on the bottles and none of my plants using it are looking right all the sudden. I also ordered some of the new two-part MegaCrop as an additional backup but I think the Maxibloom is gonna be fine.
Anyways, on with the show!
I started these guys with around 1/2 tsp Maxibloom and 1ml DiamondNectar. ~600ppms.
Purple Mac
Northern Cheese Haze Day 8 - This one got 1/4 tsp Maxibloom and 1ml DiamondNectar.~300ppms Pretty sure that is either light or chlorine burn on the old growth, not sure as I’m still getting used to things on this run but the new growth is coming in good.
Blue Dream getting started in a 2gal airpot - I should’ve started another Mephisto instead This one’s on water only right now. Bottom 3 inches are 60/40 FFOF/Perlite and the rest is ~60/40 FFHF/Perlite
And I picked up two more RSpec boards from HLG and added them to my 320h-54a setup. These are mounted horizontal (for now) and have the LM301H’s and Cree 660’s instead of the LM301B’s and Osram SSL 660’s my old RSpec’s have…
See how this goes, I set up that LAGarden tent for the NCH and BD. It’s actually pretty decent quality, little thin but the easiest of the 4 brands of tents that I’ve tried to put together so far. I hope to move the Blue Dream into the 3x3 here in a month or so, if I can fit it, may be able to wait if I need to…
Yeah I think my math is off on the dosage, thinking more like 0.1ml/gal is the way to go. I did 0.8ml/3gal and got a ~10ppm increase. So 0.1ml/gal should be ~2.5ppm chlorine and safe while still doing the job.
Yeah may be the issue. I dont pre mix the chlorine so i cant compare yours to what i use but I use 0.05g of 65% strength pool shock to a 120 litre (30 Gal) system every 4 days. I found that pre mixing the pool shock meant it would slowly activate while not in use and the strength of the solution will change over time. So i figured out how much in grams i needed to directly add so the dose is consistent.
Hello, went through your grow so far, looks like nutrient lock out has been a major problem on the hydro side. When peroxiding to control bacteria, contact with organics sets off the radical that causes a major drop in the pH of the water to around 5.2-5.5 I did extensive studies on this years ago when I was growing hydro ebb and flow system. The chlorine effect is the same on contact with biologicals, when you feed more nutrients into that same water, this helps the bacteria more than the plant, over 72 hours the chlorine smell goes away and the war starts all over again.
Thanks for reading! Yeah I definitely struggled with it a few times… and I always wait before I deal with it instead of recognizing it and fixing it immediately trying to get better at it though.
Anyways, things are looking better now. Got the Silica today so swapped the res on the NCH and lowered the ppms. Went with .1ml/gal on the Clorox this time. Got the water made up for the PM/RS but haven’t gotten around to swapping those yet since they perked up and flattened out.
See if she does anything, experimenting with the nutes on her since she’s in soil.
Kind of a toss up between keeping her and the Blue Dream. I’m turning the other tent into an Auto Tent I think. Popped a Forum Stomper x Creme De La Chem yesterday and just took this pic now.
Got a 3.6Gal air-pot with her name on it. Gonna do FFOF+Perlite in the bottom couple inches, a mix of it and FFHF in the middle, and all FFHF+Perlite at the top. Hopefully I have enough perlite left…
Maxibloom+Silica ftw! Currently at half dosages for both, half teaspoon per gallon. +1/8 Tsp epsom salt per gallon. I’m experimenting with calimagic a bit, using tap water too. somewhere between not needing it and like 1ml/gal but will come back to that later. Clorox @ 0.2ml per gallon every 3 days, 0.3ml if you have issues.
Purple MAC is about 22" tall, Russian Snow is ~23", Godberry is ~13". Been getting around an inch a day or so, I started flower around ~16" and it’s been 6 days so far.
I totally messed up this Northern Cheese Haze from Mephisto but she’s finally coming along now. Switched her from maxibloom over to the new Megacrop 2-part following their schedule and so far so good. Will see what happens as she’s 24 days from germination and if she starts flowering anytime soon i’m just gonna trash her and start over. Hopefully she comes around though and I can get some decent weight off her.
Right? I think so too. I’m gonna keep her going and just see what happens for now, maybe I’ll get lucky. If not, I got plenty more seeds to try again later Thanks!
Just started Week 3, day 15. Picked up some Liquid Koolbloom and Dry Koolbloom to use with the Maxibloom. Starting out with just 1ml per gallon of the liquid stuff as of yesterday, so far so good. Buds have started developing.
And in other news… my tent is basically full. I need a 4x4x73 tent stat
Lights(4x QB288 R-Spec) are at 320w at the wall, temp hits about 79 with lights on, 64 when off.
Been debating on defoliating but I’m kinda scared to after last grow. When I defoliated the Godberry 3 weeks into flower it completely tanked her nute requirements and just didn’t grow right after that so I’m only cutting when I have too. So far that’s mostly just lower branches on the big girls. Haven’t touched this little Godberry though as she’s so little. May need to do something though to get her spread out a bit. Having like 6 almost 1ft buds would be fun…
Would make the graphs more useful for sure and should be cleaner… at the least more informative.
trying to get better at it though.
Thanks!
