So the plant is outside?
Correct. I agree itās pretty advanced. I havenāt been keeping a very good eye on them.
Now just rig up a a cost-prohibitive positive pressure system with advanced filtration and ozone/UV sterilization like they have in virus labs and you can keep those spores from ever getting inside haha.
If they exist, that is lol. As far as the PMā¦eh could sure be a lot worseā¦more for the hash pile.
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yah you have to find the plant thatās hosting the powdery mildew thatās infecting your plants. Itās not the kind that generates cleistothecia(overwintering) is it? I donāt see dark balls.
There is no plant Joe. My balcony is concrete and is as clean and free from plants as is possible in nature.
This real time evidence will hopefully open your eyes to your confirmation bias.
Everything is fresh there was nothing overwintering.
I donāt care about this plant from a yield standpoint but Iām glad to bring it to your attention.
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donāt worry the most difficult part is finding the host.
Again, there is no host.
If you donāt believe me thatās one thing. If you refuse to accept things that donāt fit into your personal narrative thatās another.
Would it be easier if I titled this grow āairborne mildew spore experimentā instead of āhaphazard summer autos?ā
Itās ok to be wrong but you should do so graciously instead of being bullheaded about your entrenched position.
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Just read the scientific documents, this conversation is over.
This was never really a conversation
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You foreigners and yourā¦uhā¦secret plants.
To inexplicably and pointlessly die on a hill that PM spores canāt travel more than 5 meters.
Anywho, you gonna harvest now, treat it with something, or let it ride?
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Iāve been wrong before. Itās ok. It feels good to admit it. Ego tempered by humility etc.
We foreigners are a slippery bunch who often import fruits and vegetables without declaring them.
Iām not sure what Iām going to do yet. Iāll scope the trichs (with a microscope) to see how far out I am.
More than likely it will end up in the hash pile or in the bin. It wonāt yield more than a 1/2oz anyway so Iām not really motivated to take it seriously. At this point Iāll let it ride but that might change depending on my mood tomorrow.
And now, vernal, this conversation is over 
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Hey if anyone is really having problems with powdery mildew, feel free to message me. Iām definitely up to teaching anyone who wants to learn!!
here peoples! This is what I would call a primer, on pathogens. Itās called the Germ Theory of Disease.
understanding that a pathogen is really a physical object, can be important to your understanding about how it works.
Lots of pathogens are very small. Filaments a couple-a-microns wide. Little specs smaller than dust. Smaller than a plant cell. Except with modern technology you can easily image them with resolutions down to a micron.
ok so youāve seen the conidia(asexual spores) in the image I provided right? They are actually fairly large, according to the scale. Nothing you could see with your eye or even a good magnifying glass. This is what the replicating pathogen known as powdery mildew looks like. Once that thing lands on your plant leaf yo! given the right conditions, itās thriving. The plant itself provides the conditions for the parasite to live and grow, then replicate. Thatās why its not living on your shoe or over there on the ground or something. Itās completely dependent on the plant to survive, but there are a few plants the pathogen can survive on. They are known as the host plants. Like zinnias and cannabis. You can figure out which plant hosts which pathogen by using a simple test. I call it the ārub that mildew on the leaf and see if it replicatesā. You ever do that? Take a mildew colony from a cucumber and rub it on a tomato, to see what happens?
I fail to find replicating pathogen, whereās waldo.
ok, so you can see the surface of the random plant leaf I broke off there. Itās been growing down there for a month, but I donāt really see anything. Then you say, well you canāt prove they donāt exist by spending the rest of your life scouring the plants and the floor and the lamp shades looking for spores! Except! I donāt have to. I just provide a safe and welcoming environment for the pathogen. See if it flourishes. If not, I can presume the pathogen I cannot find in any sample isnāt present.
Are both MOLD & MILDEW (the kind that can affect cannabis) visible under a loupe/scope?
Iām a newbie & my sense of smell isnāt great.
So my question is, after I dry & cureā¦ how can I be 100% certain my buds have no mold/mildew present. Other than sending it to a lab. Will any contamination be visible under 50-100x? Or will it be visible to the naked eye.
Thanks!
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You can definitely spot it with a microscope. Naked eye will fail to see things that are just a few microns wide. It can only see things that are 300 microns and larger!
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I know some dispensaries use a chlorine gas to rid their weed of mold ect. to help get past mold tests and be able to sell products that once had mold on it.
This may be something someone with a lowered immune system may need to consider rather than take a chance on moldy weed making them sick.
I do not know the procedure, but I may know a guyā¦LOL
I have also heard of folks dipping the buds in water and hydrogen peroxide to clean the mold off buds outdoors too.
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Yah unfortunately powdery mildew produces mycotoxins, so itās not safe. Iām not sure about the species that infests cannabis, but I would err on the side of caution. Botrytis is safe for purification though, using buds ā hash ā rosin process, it can only trigger an asthma attack if you do it wrong, no organ failure.
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@JoeCrowe
How do you feel about remediated cannabis?
Do you feel those methods I mentioned above would clean the weed enough to smoke?
Have you ever inspected weed after that sort of remediation?
If I remember correctly you are working with rejected weed and making a clean award-winning concentrate out of it,
Do I have that right?
Thank you in advance, sorry for all of the questions.
I am asking for a sick friend.
Peace
shag
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I would only trust remediation on botrytis contaminated weed. Things like cladosporium have mycotoxins, and I wouldnāt fuck with it. Yah I remediated that kilo of weed into some primal rosin, mmm good stuff! Gave it the whole 25 micron treatment like it was going to the awards show lol! If you have a microscope you can determined which fungus it is and then youāll know if itās got dangerous poison in it.
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