Hey @kndreyn can I try some of those out??
Love some mendo breath! I can only find crosses online, and the cost is prohibitively expensive
Well hang around. Come spring time Iāll prob have plenty to share if people pay shipping (or sooner if you have something to trade ). Just much easier and less risky to ship once itās above freezing.
anything in particular you are looking for? I have bunches and bunches of seeds
The only stuff Iāve been looking for lately are clones of other elites, but Iām a strainaholic so what ever lol. But I have a few people I need to grow cuttings out for first so itāll be a few weeks before I have more up for grabs, I just got the clone myself a few weeks ago .
Ever thought about seed runs of your own. Lower limbs put out hundreds
Well the first five you listed are definitely different plants, closely related but different.
Og kush got so popular and expensive in the 2000-2005 period that everybody who found a seed grew it and sold cuts as og. There is also people who may have got the cut early in and weāre asked to rename it or did so they wouldnāt get caught with something they werenāt supposed to have. Just one example is Skywalker og , the first Skywalker was a og plant this dude Luke in the valley popped up with. It must have been a s1 because it looked spot on but had a different flavor. It got named Skywalker because of his name being Luke. Immediantly after a story comes out that Skywalker is blueberry x og then that itās (BB x mazar) x og and people like dna start selling seeds. People grow these and start calling every girl they get or pass cuts from Skywalker. Now you get a Skywalker clone which one do you have ?
I will say I have the ghost , Skywalker, sfv , 92, legend and tk and wouldnāt keep them all if they were the same. The only two I can even compare as similar are the ghost and sfv which smell and taste very much alike. They grow completely different though and the sfv smells louder but the ghost hits harder. The tk and og are very similar but there sisters so thatās not surprising.
On a interesting note I have grown these in alot if different conditions and the only one I have ever seen try and make itās own s1 with out being manipulated was the ghost and there rare and normally white and deformed.
Originally there was og kush , triangle kush and the white. More seeds may have been found and grown but those are the three that can be tracked back to the original grow this all started from that everybody involved agrees upon. The rest becomes very blurred very fast. Some that I have grown but didnāt keep are bty , true kush, Hpk , raskals sfv, fire og , fire og that is a cross of sfv and ograskal, Platinum og, king Loui, Jedi, Yoda, Larry , lemon Larry, kosher , Jew gold (not the same plant as kosher despite what is said. Faceoff of clone which is bagseed find.
High octane which is the same as heirloom og or Nigelās og. Im Probably forgetting a few.
There is a few good threads on icyrag documenting alot of this. The legend og came from a couple in Florida and was given to and then slowly leaked from the club in Malibu.
The crinkle cut and the schmoe cut are the same thing but we should be calling it The crinkle cut at the request of those who named it that. Schmoe is a reference to the guy who accidentally let it out and he dosent really want to be know for that. Crazy composer did alot if work deciphering what was what and it was decided it should be called the crinkle cut. This was because the Josh d used to be called legendary and there was some confusion over that and the legend. The legend of has fan leafs that are very similar to the white but with out the birthmark. Itās possible that it is a s1 from the white as those were passed around for awile but it could also be that the legend is a seed from some Florida kush that they brought over with them. Nobody really knows for sure accept that they were from Florida and Ricky says there definitely related to the kush plants, maybe somebody knows more but is staying quite. If I had to say which one you should pursue it really depends on what you have access to. The sfv is more commonly passed around but there are several non legit versions floating around. The larry and king lui used to be common cuts but now the racefuel og and Skywalker seem to be on the shelves more often. The legend is getting put out there also by purple city genetics and is the legit cut. In regards to the ghost and a few others I donāt think they are commonly available, I spoke with orgnkid about it and was given one person who actually had the ghost from him and they donāt sell it publicly. The tk is out there but often faked and when you find it there is normally a pretty high price tag on the cut. The people who are at the origins of these plants have been questioned about it all so much and still get asked for the cuts daily so they normally donāt respond , itās not that there trying to ignore people itās just that they donāt sell clones anyways and you can only respond to so many people in a day before you give up and ignore the whole mailbox. Iām barely on the edge of these circles and I get on average 3 questions or clone requests a day. If you had ten messages and gave each one 5 minutes that would already be almost a hour a day just responding to og requests. What happens when it gets to be too much people just stop responding to anybody that they donāt know. Almost all the og kush story is online in regards to the different cuts and when and where they showed up. Itās been going on so long that there is a constant influx of people who are new to the rabbit hole and ready to dive in.
I have, but so far I havenāt even gotten one seed run yet. Iām doing my first pollination on a few of the plants in my current batch that Iām about to flip, but no elites involved with this round lol. Pollen sent from other members and dusting a few branches of three plants that fit in the tent with the testers I also have going. Iāll have fewer test plants next round so I can either run BOG along with it like I had planned (seeding lower branches), or some of my new clones and make some fem seeds while Iām at it. I have sts to reverse a clone of one of them. Too many ideas and Iām indecisive. Course then thereās what to reverse first lol. By that time, if what I have lined up goes to plan, Iām going to have several more cuts in my collection.
I have pollon from 2 blue Oaxaca x blueberry
And now from 4 SourD x Lemon Skunk. Just hit me up.
In a few weeks Iāll have some fem pollon from this MTF Bitch I gotš. No offence meant Ladies
Pollination is in 2-3 weeks so that could work. A fourth set of pollen for this batch would round it out!
How was the platinum OG? Iāve seen many crosses made with it and they all look really nice, so I was going to get it at least for breeding lol.
The Platinum is a great plant, very compact compared to a normal og, makes me think itās a cross to a bubba kush or maybe master kush donāt remember right of the tol of my head. I think dark heart is selling cuts if it right now at a few different clubs.
Iād have to have someone over there get me one or hope find a place that has it and ships. A couple of other members and I are kind of on a hunt and share mission for some strains we all want lol.
Cple? You, me and anybody posting on this thread and several that havenāt.
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I got some Ghost seeds, some Alien OG, some RKS coming. Iāll be running them , iDK??.ASAPā¦ Probably the RKS first, I gotta know!
Still want the platinum and fire if I can find/afford them
Also to make things even more confusing og kush is a very sensitive plant that can look alot different depending on how and weāre it is grown
So there are many renames alot of s1s and alot of variation.
Here is a example of one og grown by several different crews.
I vote for #10 ,15 and 23 based on looks.
Looks like a mix of ndoor and outdoor to me but really shows how extreme the phenotypic plasticity is with these genetics.
Thats a pretty cool diagram just shows that every grow is different. Even the bud structure is different couple look more dense then the others.
Back in the day, I popped only two seeds, every thing else was a clone, and keeper alive by cloning. Every plant was identical to the one I cloned it from. With seeds even as pure as one can get, I understand that even out of ten seeds you still have to look for the keeper. Even with @tonygreens GG4 or GB RIL you still have to look for the right pheno. So thereās really no telling what you got until l grown and smoked . my ten seeds could throw ten diff than your ten seeds from the same breeder.
I upped the nutes and got leaf burns on some of the plants. Other plant had no problems. The sfv og, and Mendo breath didnāt like the high ppm much and burned, but they are almost done so doesnāt matter to me they will be in the flushing stage now. So sorry for the ugly picture but hereās an update on the sfv og
Damn fine looking bud!