IR light helps your plants go to sleep?

Indoor Growing
#14

back in the day I worked for a commercial grower

doing flowers for florist trade

we had a glass greenhouse ( back than they all were all glass)

it was about a quarter of the size of our others

inside we had a curtain system to black out the house

and lights to light it

so we would darken house for about an hour at noon or light lights

at midnight

when you are in the flower business you need flowers

a side note when I first started in the industry I worked for a grower

who did poinsettias by the train load

we were outside of town and started having a problem with people breaking in and stuff

so they put up security lights on the end of 4 of the houses

that fall the plants at the light end of the house did not flower for Christmas

than someone was Duh? the lights running all night

all the best

Dequilo

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#15

But knowing how cannabis likes to hermie if there’s a light leak… wouldn’t that increase the likelihood?

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#16

if that is to me in a greenhouse it does not matter

they do not have light leaks

but how ez is it to stress a cannabis plant with light?

I have had one hermie in 20 years and it was genetics

keep breeding with and to all that feminized stuff and see how the

hermie thing plays out over time

my vision of the industrial THC weed grower for the pack of

joints market that will come in time

they will be doing 2 - 3 crops a year all feminized and all autos

planted just like any other commercial row crop

of course hopeful we still will have the boutique type bud

grown by that type of grower

and with any luck that will not look at us all like illegal distrillers

that is why I have been trying to grab some of the old stuff

and make beans with regulars to put away for a rain day

all the best

Dequilo

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#17

Hey @dequilo are you saying adding an hour of lights out in the middle of your day while flower should give you the same result as you would with the initator puck?

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#18

nope just telling you what was done with darkening and lighting

plants in greenhouse when I started working in the flower trade for

a commercial grower

I believe all the puck does is burn up the enzyme that keeps

the plant from flowering

what I was talking about is a low tech version of the same

principal

that is why I have always give my plants 36 hour of darkness

at the start of the flower cycle

in the dark the red enzyme is depleted and they sets flowers

go to 12/12 it happens over a longer period of time

the puck from what I have read does that thru IR light

so what would take 12 hours to deplete has a kick start of

2 hours

all the best

Dequilo

EDIT

if you do one hour of dark at mid day short day plants will flower

if you do one hour of light at mid night your long day plants will flowers

clear as mud eh? :wink:

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#19

The puck is no good for our use huh? The video @anon93244739 posted saying far red only promotes flowering in long day plants (Plants that flowering during long days).

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#20

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-biology/chapter/plant-sensory-systems-and-responses/

a good read

it is great if you can use it to deplete the enzyme that keeps the plant out of flower

they say you can flower a plant using it under 14/10

which if it is how it work would be good for some growers

all the best

Dequilo

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#21

Its called emmerson effect, you turn on i think 10% in far red of your normal ppfd (please check that out, im not sure, it may be 10% of red light) after main light to get about 2 hours extra of main light schedule…

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#22

Yes, LD plants use FR for flower promotion, but in all plants it can be used to accelerate going into night mode via emmerson effect… Check this out:

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#23

indeed is :slight_smile:

I took Botany in college back 1977 soo long ago

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#24

Thanks @dequilo and @Wiener_Demeanor for your time to help me understand the Phytochrome System a little more a little more. I’m definitely going to look into it a little further. But in my case I dont feel confident enough right now to play around with that. I would like to see if anyone is using far red to keep there lights on longer during flower.

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#26

ReikoX has those:

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#27

Yeah, first flowering cycle with this setup, and the plants are fast as is, but I saw sex on these plants after 4 days of 12/12. :man_shrugging:

Going through my notes, it seems the makes were pulled at ay 10 on my previous grow.

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#28

This is my first full run using them too, and new genetics, but I also saw mine show sex in 4 or 5 days. I’m also at 6 weeks of flower and my plants closest to my IR puck are looking almost ready to chop. I thought it was just because of being indica dominate, I forgot that the puck is supposed to decrease flowering times too! Now I want to get it focused on my s3dh

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#29

I couldnt understand, they are fast as they were before fr? Did you do extra 2 hours? You saw sex 6 days before you did last time?

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#31

By saying these are fast, I’m referring to the fact that they are 1/2 autoflowering and 1/2 photoperiod plants. They flower a couple weeks faster than their mother.

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#32

Both are saying faster overall flower cycle. I had forgotten that people said that about it

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#33

was going to try the rapid pucks, had never heard that it shortens the flower cycle though, thanks @anon92380848

#34

I’ve been using one for my current seed run and i got pistils in less that a week after flip!

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#35

i use products with gibberlin in them and my switches go very well, but its a little bit risky, can cause hermies i am told. But i wanted the far red just so they get more rest the added benefit of a shorter flower cycle is mindboggling.