Morning Freakazoids.
Everyone have a gorgeous day.
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This particular article reads more like an apology/explanation of why their customers are finding hermies than real science… there’s no references other than their own blog, and one link to a 2004 study that mentions (in the free sample section - not sure if Sensi even read more of it than the free sample themselves, based on this?) that “Microscopic analysis of male and female apices revealed that their reproductive commitment may occur as soon as the leaves of the fourth node emerge; the genetic expression of male and female apices at this stage has been compared by cDNA-AFLP. A rapid method for the early sex discrimination has been developed, based on the PCR amplification of a male-specific SCAR marker directly from a tissue fragment.” Keep in mind that this is based on observations and technology from 2004. Maybe now it’s possible a little earlier, like as soon as the cotyledons pop out - like Farmer Freeman, etc. are saying when they offer sex testing.
I’ve read a lot about seedlings changing gender based on environmental factors and it all appears to be hearsay and assumption, other than the simple fact that they can herm if stressed. I’m not saying it’s impossible for cannabis plants to do this - it’s well-known that some species of plants do, and for that matter some species of animals do as well - but I’ve still seen no evidence that they do. Do you know if there is any? Could you link it if so?
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good morning Johnny & OG, glad to see the sale of Frankenstein fems went so well! got a question, about how long is everyone running the Frankenstein from 12/12? im about 50 days in and looks to need another 20 im guessing. biggest pistils ive seen on anything i have grown so far!
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I’ve taken the two I’ve run to 10 weeks and I’ve been happy with the smoke so far. Gonna try a sample of some taken at 8.5 next weekend to see if that treats me better. Somewhere around 8-10 weeks seems to be the consensus, I think I remember Johnny said he runs his to 8.5 or 9?
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Understand but it’s not weeks of growing before sex is determined it is days like 3 to 5 is all it takes THEN sex has already been determined .
I can sex test my plants at 4 days old and 100 % KNOW SEX Just fact .
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In humans, all embryos start off as female until androgens offset the maternal estrogens and maleness occurs. The farmers almanac and a few other horticultural books I have may be wrong for implying that seeds similarly react to their environmental cues, and maybe the scientific studies that they reference and are readily available and at the top of Google search results are wrong too, but it seems that Schaffner’s conclusion that sex in hemp is non-Mendelian in nature and is under
the control of environmental factors does concur with many other growers observations.
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Good morning JP. Good morning everyone!
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lol Man, has this topic opened a discussion. There’s different schools of thought on it, I’m aware. Also there’s probably articles by people on both sides of the issue.
I propose we agree to disagree, lol
I’m in no mood to go searching the net again this morning, to prove or disprove. I suggest folks, just do research and also experiment, to find out for themselves.
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Frankenstein can be ready anytime from 8-10 weeks. It’s totally dependent on type of buzz you want. The longer it goes, the more ‘couch-lock’ the buzz…
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Since you didn’t bother actually linking any evidence but just sarcastically told me you have plenty, I took the liberty of searching. Is this the Schaffner study you’re referencing? The one that was written working with 1929 technology, uses sample sizes of ~100 plants, doesn’t control anything except lighting, and notably, ends with this paragraph?
- Although the development and expression of sex in hemp are affected by
environmental factors, the changes produced are in many cases relatively minor
ones, and a sweeping conclusion that genetic factors are in no way concerned
with sex in this species is not warranted at the present time.
edit: Ok, this guy just references Schaffner. I can’t find anything by Schaffner available. Maybe I have to buy his whole book. No value to this study, but I don’t see any value to someone trying to present evidence that they don’t have available either, so we’re still arguing about what shadows look like in the darkness.
morning everyone
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Now, where is that fncking popcorn bowl when you need it???
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But I don’t have thirty years left to do experiments!!! How about I just believe the guy that had that time and did those experiments already.
lol
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Johnny has run a grow op, and I have pics on my IG of the clone room I ran for 5 years… just 10K clones a day and constant hunting of 500-seed lots… but we definitely had hard data showing certain tendencies, and successfully used that data to steer our ratios. Maybe we were delusional and misinterpreted our data 
Alternatively, like Johnny mentioned above: A lot of people actually know different true things.
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lol I don’t mind if anyone agrees or disagrees with anything I say. That’s every person’s right. All I say is, let’s keep it friendly folks!
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Alternatively, maybe you aren’t telling the absolute truth but only the truth as you know it - in other words, there would be plenty of details missing from your experimental data, even if it actually existed. That’s the point of peer-reviewed studies in actual science. I believe that you both believe you’re right, but do I believe you and Johnny are perfect? Hell no.
Apropos of absolutely nothing, did everyone know that it requires approximately 26,000 tests to determine that a flipped coin has 51/49 odds as opposed to 50/50? And even then, there’s a 5% margin of error.
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I totally agree with ya cuz! In fact, lol I know I’m not perfect! Everyone make mistakes, that’s why they put erasers on pencils
Also why I say, let’s just agree to disagree, and keep it a friendly discussion.
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For any topic, you can almost always find at least 2 schools of thought. You can also usually find data supporting both sides of anything as well.
That’s also why I say do your own testing of any theory, and go with what your findings tell you. If it works for you as the one doing the growing, then that’s all ya need!
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Well said.
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thats a fact take for instance the corona virus and/or global warming…er…climate change
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