You are correct of course but sometimes it just isn’t worth arguing. I’ve used cannabis for about 40yrs, used to do a lot of acid and quite a lot of E and occasionally shrooms. Never tripped on ganja although i have seen some spectacular whiteys over the years from those with little or no tolerance. They sometimes lost vision but they never actually hallucinated. If it caused hallucinations it would be a class A here and would not be legal anywhere.
If your tolerance drops way down and you hit some very potent weed it can feel a bit trippy like the early onset of an acid trip but acid soon takes you way beyond anywhere you could ever get on cannabis.
i dont see any basis for that claim. As , … man, do you think laws are guided from very knowledgable experts that know every effect that ever was caused by cannabis ? Laws are just Laws… To think Laws are very accurate, especially drug laws is a bit questionable… I mean law magically discovers Lsd and Shrooms as medicament… So you wanna tell me laws are 100, 00 percent accurate.
Yeah, albanach, i find you a bit strange too to assume me having nostalgia. And sharing this thought…
If those Strains wouldnt be dying out, i would not care , but sadly theyre rarer than a needle in hay
there are couple papers who have found the hallucinogenic molecules, or whatever binding-to-receptors… in cannabis.
quote from the paper:
These findings suggest that THC’s binding with the 5-HT2AR leads to the overactivation of the pro-hallucinogenic signaling pathways. Consequently, this functional alteration of the receptor may lead to increased susceptibility of psychotic states, schizophrenic-type responses, and hallucinations.
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Lol you think I’m strange try taking a tab sometime.
Btw I took literally dozens of different variations of acid over the years and while most blew my mind I rarely got hallucinations. Saw a monkey in a tree at Glastonbury festival once while on a couple of microdots that a wasn’t sure was actually there but wierd shit happens at festivals esp that one.
I will say that drugs can affect some people differently. Knew a guy who used to get a reaction very like speed from cannabis and acid made him stoned like we got on hash so not everyone is equal. I also knew a girl once who claimed she got wasted on a coupe of cans of coke.
By definition a psychedelic produces changes in perception, mood, and cognitive processes. It doesn’t just mean hallucinations. In that aspect, I consider weed a psychedelic.
back to science, any more questions about science? and how cannabis binds to 5-HT2AR
Or do you wanna ask me how it felt, and how my clearly stated HALLUCINATION was? Hallucination is to differ from vague word-games like psychedelic, or trippyits a clearly defined term
I started taking psilocybin cubensis when I was a kid. The ones with the blue ink that leaks out of the stem. They grew wild where we were. We used to make Kool-aid with it. I have taken the indoor grown mushrooms with the rusty red tops, and had a half dozen tabs of acid or so in my life.
I have also tripped on weed. Not every strain of weed of course, but a couple strains in my life would give psychedelic highs. Both of them were sativas with no body high. You would smoke and smoke and by the time you felt something you were way too high.
I remember pissing and hearing a rocket take off inside my head, and I closed my eyes and couldn’t feel contact with the earth below me. Another strain when I once got shocked by static electricity I could feel the energy coursing around my body.
It is rare. I have smoked literally hundreds of strains, and about two had these effects. But when someone says it has happened then I believe them.
One would be a sativa pheno of Jack Herer in the early 00’s. I can’t remember what the other one was. I think it was some sort of Haze though.
Another story that happened when my mom and dad were dating. They were smoking joints with all their friends in the early 70’s when my dad starting acting crazy. Talking about cops and stuff. He had a complete delusion that the house had been raided and that they needed to run while they had the chance. He was just freaking out and they teased him about that for years.
I would agree with you 100% if not for one experience I had. I came back to smoking after a decade off and this shit I had was straight narcotic. I smoked a little too much one night and when it kicked in I was on my laptop and had the tv on. I was locked into position hunched over my laptop, like I could move but it felt like I couldn’t. I was having trouble focusing on reading but when I’d look at the tv the colors were too bright and stretching past the screen. No idea how long it was but it felt like 2 hours of this, pretty uncomfortable and unexpected for sure. I was borderline freaking out cause I didn’t think pot could do this.
Then at some point all that stopped and it settled into a deep body high that felt like I took Percocets or something. Slept like a baby that night.
For context I have plenty of experience with E, acid via different mediums, shrooms, mescaline and I’ve taken peyote. I know what it is to trip and I can’t think of anything else to call what I experienced that night that fits.
Man I’ve had weed make me almost trip before… I felt like I couldn’t feel what I was doing until a second after… it happened when I was driving… and let me just say… it was rough!!! I had it happen several times… it was very rare but happened when I smoked a whole lot… so I’ve done lsd shrooms microdot mescaline …etc…so I know what it’s like to trip or have a psychedelic experience… and it happened with weed too… maybe because I tripped before?? I know it happened after tripping originally… maybe some correlation there? Idk… but I know I wasn’t just high like a regular weed high…
