On the ideals of communism

My point was that it’s perfectly fine to criticize capitalism and doesn’t make you communist socialist or anarchist…the pursuit of money and free market economy has positives and negatives

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This is perfectly appropriate here. I flagged you earlier due to it being completly off topic from Authentic Genetics. The sudden appearance of a seed seller that hasnt been around for a long time is an encouraging sign of progress. Then we all started acting freakin crazy and probably ran him off. Whether or not you use his product, many here do. Those folks value the chance to hear his opinion. He would make a great sponsor, as well to support our platform.

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What about the scammers on here. They pay to be a sponsor and get away with trying to rip people off and nothing happens to them. EG. Med Man Brand. FFS . Why even tolerate having someone like that on here. WTF.

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This is the last AG NL#2 i saw grown out on here. It tested at 20 % according to that member. Why would you call him a scammer?

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AG isn’t a sponsor here so I don’t think he was talking about him? Only medmanbrand…

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Sir whom are you talking about?

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So too capitalist and also too communist here?

You clearly don’t understand the differences between capitalism and communism, which is all too common these days (at least in the US) when communism and socialism are thrown around like they are in the political realm.

Communism is when the workers collectively own the means of production. That is clearly not the case on this forum, where everyone owns their own means of production and barters, trades, or gives things away. Censoring can happen in either type of economy, and has more to do with authoritarianism than the economic structure.

I don’t know what the rest of this thread is about. People are free to charge whatever they want for seeds or even give them away. Either buy them or move on, it doesn’t have to be a personal attack on your person or ideals if someone is charging you for a product.

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I’m absolutely not against using some analogies to be faster, but i think that your reading of communism is a bit “carved” ^^ If i accurately translate the OG model in a communist platform, you will discover that it’s even more centralized and rude that a “simple” dictatorship. It’s not even socialist.

Utopian structures are good intellectual exercises, but it’s in ignoring what’s around that you kill a place. And the trend is almost 100% marketing education, but here. We have our itinerants merchants too, but most of the time they are regulated by the whole OG itself.

I don’t have the same grid at all, but i understand the pattern you make. It’s a bit innocent too, we have our own specific problematic too. During the campaign of strainly and the explosion of Discord channels … we saw also that the OG seeds and genetics are an asset. It’s not that simple i mean.

It’s totally legit buddy. If you come in my growlog trashing the vibes … the same thing is supposed to happen without any story of cash in the equation.

I mean we are in a big block where we visit each others. The least we can do is to respect the places we visit and to sweep our shoes before entering. No ?

The team is very clear on this : the freedom to open a public thread to talk about a concern, if it’s not just throwing bile, is tolerated. They just want to dodge campaign of raids, that are very usual today.

Even if some have a weird way to manage a customer service, customers are not even supposed to use the infrastructure of OG to deal with the breeders. But using their proper private structure.

I mean … staying logical. There is no ticket system or customers tracking with orders # integrated to OG ^^

You annihilate totally the “choice” of partners in the equation. I think it’s a bad angle, and it even go in your sense to consider the equation by this starting point.

OG have the firepower now to have “voted/elected” sponsor and partners.

A good portion just don’t give a fuck, let’s be honest too.

But yes, it’s part of the risk with any brand buddy. It’s the game and we almost all know this even you. In the pack we will have always some that are bit more hungry and ready to take the risk to be banned for a hit&run.

But … it’s taking OG for a kindergarten also. I mean the antibodies here are strong, active, not paid “to don’t”, sometimes even … pushed by the OG team to go further in breaking marketing BS (i still don’t forget the F/R demonstration, Loki).

There is a necessary margin of freedom to let people defend themselves and maintain their sane free will and critic sense. Or we just end with sheeps buddy that need a fucking ton of employees to manage, even to explain them how to poop and where. Fuck it lol

The terms doesn’t matter, but opening the equation on one extreme is always a good exercize to see if there not a diamond shining in the ass of the goat.

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What does the eternal struggle of the workers to break free of the chains of wage labor have to do with buying or trading weed seeds?

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Yo what the absolute f@ck happened here :joy:

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lol, the order of this thread doesn’t even make sense anymore. I was reseponding to @Sbeanonnamellow being called a communist. But carry on. My comment makes a lot more sense in the order it should have been posted. Not at the beginning of a thread. Lololol, I didn’t make this thread, I responded to a member being called a communist in another thread but carry on. This place is hilarious :joy: but

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This isn’t real communism. It’s not being done right.

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True, the order is slightly munged when merging. The top post is after the Sbeanonnamellow content in chronology. Take notice, FWIW. It was merged here with prior notice provided.

No, what was being proposed was called a communist ideal.

My paraphrase. E.g. you shouldn’t be making a profit on goods at the expense of others who do not have said goods.

The actual wording is above.

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Wait, what’s going on right now…

This place have nothing to do with communism :thinking:
To even express that is a tell tell sign, you have noooo clue what communism is. You can’t cherry pick small things that makes up the whole idea of communism and use them to reflect and label other things as communist. :pensive:

I don’t understand the bantering about the price points of AG either. They are definitely considered to be “cheap” in today’s market where seeds from a Z cross costs $400+ for 6 fems and it’s not uncommon to stumble upon.

Saddens me that @ToddMcC have this type of interactions when he’s trying to communicate with the forum. I hope he understand that it’s not all of us and there is a whole bunch of us(including me) who would love to have a more fluid, constructive and positive discussion about breeding, genetics and history.

@LemonadeJoe lives in a country which was terrorised by communism. In my experience, people who have been though that oppression is the strongest voices against it. I don’t see that he’s expressing any of these ideas on the forum or it’s moderation. It’s quite outrageous to accuse him of condoning that type of tyranny.

That’s it for me. This is too much nonses to care about for this week, even for me. :pensive:

Pz :v:t2:

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I wonder if any of you have ever lived or talked to someone who lived in a communistic society before, in order to have an idea what you are criticizing to begin with.

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Remember kids, communism has been criticized by those who made you believe that all Muslims are terrorists.

Have a good day.

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LJ was the initial one the make the communism comment.

Some of you are being this.

You read the thread. An individual was harassing another user about how things should be ‘free’ along with a bunch of other miscellaneous.

Notice was provided that a new topic should be created. Was ignored. We created one for those to continue with that debate. If not interested or productive, we can close it.

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