Oni's 2nd grow. Lessons learned

For the fabric pots I was just watering the seedlings gentle unlike my first 2 grows where I stunted them with too much water.

Still on my second grow, but I’m learning my lesson this time.

The soil becomes very hydrophobic, so I may have to soak it from the bottom at next watering.

As it stands now it’s moist in the center and arid everywhere else in the soil. Structure wise there’s something that looks wrong to me about the soil. It resembles a dry patch of woods where the rest if the area is wet, but that one spot dried. Somehow fluffy, but dry and cracked. The odd thing is despite being dry it retains a dark color below the dirt color.

If the crystal candy doesn’t germ I’ll be spending some money on amending the soil.

Once the pot dries out all the way I can see what the deal is with the consistency after I sort out the perlite.

When the photo flips to flower it’ll be after the autos are harvested leaving me with a decent amount of soil to sit on or give my photo a bigger pot and get better soil structure.

I have to check the brands I used to make the soil. I know the compost was ecoscraps potting soil. The second I opened that bag and read what they do to make it I could tell it was straight compost and I was using it as if it were.
https://www.lowes.com/pd/EcoScraps-32-Quart-Organic-Container-Mix/999990018
They claim no nutrients and now I can definitely see where the gnats came from. They popped out the day we mixed the ecoscraps in I believe :sweat_smile:
Damn my buddy was cheap. He went as cheap as he could where he helped me out🙄

The soil o used 3 bags of just natural soil. I can’t remember the type yet, but I see a constant of feeds for 3 months on them. My soil definitely doesn’t seem too organic to me with what I’ve learned. I’ll have to fix that in the future.

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Good point :slight_smile: I forgot acid rain has some nutrients for plants, but in a outdoor environment you tend to see toxicity issues from too much​:sweat_smile:

I can’t believe I forget essential info sometimes

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Wow! I don’t know about acid rain. We haven’t had any in Cali in a few decades. My plants freak out from rain, but we don’t get very much.

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One of the main components of acid rain is sulfuric acid and nitric acid. In moderation it sounds like a way to introduce natural pH down into the soil. Sulfur breaks down into sulfuric acid to lower pH.

Now you’ve got me wondering if there’s a way to mix up acidic rainwater with anything else to fix a specific deficiency. That’s good though. I like going into teacher mode. I learn so much :slight_smile:

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On a better note it’s watering day once lights turn on. The pot went from some heft to OMG it’s light while I slept. Humidity has been dropping though to 40-20% Rh occasionally and maybe that’s making them try to focus on roots if I lucked out.

I got a quote for lumber and it’ll cost me 250 just to make the box alone with my local lumber store quote. For that cost I’ll just buy a tent LoL :sweat_smile:

I’m open to suggestions. If I wind up with enough to fix my bad room syndrome I’ll use the suggestion I’m able to do this weekend.

The cilantro as usual shows wilting signs a day before the pot dries. I have to let them suffer to signal with a visual without digging through the soil when to water. I’ll have to go really slow with the water. it’ll create dry pockets unless I water correctly in getting small amounts over time in the morning. The fabric pots seem. To be fine for now, but we’ll see in the morning if they want more water. So far they seem happy as is.

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Cilantro likes to be wet at all times! So finicky! I killed one in the summer. It didn’t like my watering schedule. OOPS!

I wouldn’t fuck with the ph of rain water or do anything to it. It’s amazing as is!

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It’s about 3-5 pH where I am

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I looked it up and acid rain is more prevalent on the East Coast since 1990, but The Clean Air Act helped a lot. No wonder I haven’t heard of acid rain since the 80’s, it hasn’t fallen in Cali since then.

I still think the soil will buffer it without change

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Hey can you send me some of that acid rain? lol My blueberry bush will dig it!

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I actually probably could. I’d just have to sterilize some jars before leaving them out next rain. It’s warming up, so we might have 1 or 2 rains before the end of year. If I manage to get a decent amount of it I’ll contact you in PM.
I might end up taking a trip to Cali next year, so if I do I’ll be bringing the water with me. My grandpa is over there and he’s been trying to get me there for years. He grew out some seeds I gave him, so I’ll get to see outdoor grows at their finest too. I’ll get to say hi to my cousin too. I had some of his blueberry kush and it was exactly like Blueberry and 1g lasted me a week.

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I’ll take some pics before lights out. They’ll be in a soil as dry as I’ve allowed it before watering, all night tonight. I’ve been trying to wait until the edge before I water to get a feel for the time to water.

My buddy got a tent for 60 and he’s got filters in it that keep his skunky weed smell free outside it, so once I get some cash to soend I’ll grab a tent for my babies. They need a tray underneath the fabric pots soon. They’re nearing the stage where they’ll start to want more than a splash of water

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absolutely! Just don’t let them sit in the water. Dump the trays.

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Rn there’s no runoff. Just enough to keep the roots happy and growing without overwatering. Soon they will want a real watering and without babying and letting them sip at their leisure. I water as needed on a irregular schedule for them. Really any time during the day I see the soil too dry on top. The remainder of the soil stays arid dry until they grow into the pots more.

Should I be changing that style? I don’t want to make them damp off so soon.

On a separate note I have flax seed meal, Ceylon cinnamon powder, Saigon cinnamon sticks, 2 cloves of garlic from my local farmers market, and some dried cloves. IDK if any of those can be used as a benefit for soil health, but I’m just throwing what I have out there.

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No No your watering has gotten much better. What I meant was when you do water them to runoff. Don’t let them sit in it. They will get soggy and mold

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Oh God no!:sweat_smile: I would never let them sit in stagnant water. I wouldn’t drink it. Why would I let them?
If I do anything like that it’ll be in hydro with a bubbler keeping the water full of oxygen. I learned my lesson the hard way with the first grow. Never again :disappointed_relieved: I lost so much potential. At least the anaerobic bacteria in the soil that built up didn’t cause root rot. I was lucky and won’t ever make tat mistake again

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I read something about cinnamon awhile back and I can’t quite remember what it was exactly, but I know I crossed it off my list and discarded it as useful. For some reason I want to say it’s detrimental, but don’t quote me.

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There’s supposed to be some kind of benefits to it also. I has dismissed it under the assumption that it would burn roots. I did some research. Apparently there’s a way to add it. Similar to a tea, but you want it to sub boil, filter the mash and apparently that water will be better than adding it straight as is. I don’t remember rn what it does, but it may process out some stuff you don’t want leaving the good in the water. Don’t quote me I’m tired😅

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It’s time to start LST on the Auto

The seedlings are doing nice
The photo is growing at a faster pace than the auto is. It’s already working on the 2nd set of serrated leaves.
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Both

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The LST is already showing results. The pot was light AF and the soil midday yesterday the soil was dry everywhere 2" down. I watered with 8oz water and runoff happened. I watered with 12oz total distilled water at room temperature.

The auto and photo are stretching stems now instead of focusing on leaf growth.

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After I watered the auto pot the cilantro just sprang to life. The auto did too. Looks like I can give them about 12 hours from the point they drink the pot dry.

I have no explanation for why the 8oz was enough for runoff. It should be stable now. I’ll measure the amount that came out.
It’s 2oz runoff. I tested the pH and it’s 6.70 pH.

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Here’s a hour and a half after I finished watering

I’m sleepy now. Let’s see how the plant looks in the morning.

If anyone has a explain for why the dry soil pot that should have been able to handle 16oz without runoff took 8oz before runoff started and after 4oz was added after that point only 2oz runoff total occurred. I’d appreciate an answer on that one. My best guess is the roots grew out strong in the dry conditions and I’m seeing something related to that. Or i watered too fast. Otherwise your guess is better than mine.

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