Clones or seeds have started already, I top after they get to 4th node and keep the indoors until early June (Central Ontario) or until solstice, then drop them outside. I sync my veg light to outdoor time on/off approx, mimiking sunset/rise, to avoid a revegging outside. I top every week outside, every single upper branch until 2nd last week of July. Flower set usually 1st week of August regardless of training method (for me anyway), as it seems more strain specific. These babies recover very quickly from pruning under the sun. This way, with Photoâs, we do run into late fall weather issues, but because we use 25 or 50gal containers, I can move the inside for a week or two if its a snow shit-show in October. Good organic soil, a decent strain, can EASILY pull a pound dry and they aint 12 foot beanpoles, alas donkey dick huge dense buds are a no go up here, better with a whole box of golfballs anyhowâŚ