Recently switched to the Pride Lands veg and bloom dry amendments. Today I received another bag of the Bloom and the NPK ratio doesn’t match the old bag OR the value listed on the bag. The mycrohizae is different too. The only difference should be one is 2 pounds and the new bag is 5 pounds.
The veg has 6% N maybe that’s where that comes from?
How do I know what I’ve got here?
I’d ask the company.
Found a contact form on their website. Thanks friend
Typo error maybe
Is it the same info on the grow formula ie 6/5-5/5-5
So the new bloom bag info on back is really the grow nutes info ( printing error )
Seems to be different for the veg. 6 - 3 - 3.5
I think it’s a printing error
Maybe they changed some of the raw material sources…
Cheers
G
my neighbor picked up their line for his 1st grow. never seen it before that. havnt seen the plants lately tho
his bloom is 2-5-5 and veg is 6-3-3.5
It would be interesting to know what the back of the bloom bag says. Mine the front says 2-5-5 back says 6-5.5-5.5. I emailed the company and haven’t received a response yet.
I’m interested to hear if they end up getting back to you, I hope you can post what they end up saying… if anything. I’m a pretty skeptical dude & while it could be something as simple as whoever prints their bags screwing up, it wasn’t caught. If this wasn’t caught… what else isn’t being caught? This is assuming it’s not a poorly executed forgery… did you order from greengro or a third party?
I have a bag of their bloom, finisher, grow, and whatever their biochar mix is… earth something I think… but I mixed it into my veggie bed this year. The bloom didn’t work out very well for me. Mine had the 2-5-5 front and back, for what its worth. I don’t aim to talk trash or anything like that, I know a couple guys that love the stuff, but not a good match for me. On a positive note, the veggies look pretty damn good.
If the company responds I will definitely share what they say. I bought both bags from Amazon 30 days apart.
I’m having the same thoughts about this could be a tip of the iceberg of problems with their products. Not responding to my email isn’t helping either.
Could I ask what nutrient company you use?
There’s no telling what the deal is really… perhaps they knew there was an issue and intended to export it all at a discount, but someone bought it and resold in country on amazon. Many industries export stuff that isn’t quite up to par & save the good stuff for local sale. This is all complete speculation… honestly don’t know why I wrote it… lol. No way to know. It’s totally possible that everything is fine and they’re just busier than hell, hired someone that isn’t up to snuff, or maybe somebody quit on them. I screw up at work plenty of times for just this reason. While my intentions are always to be the best, my quality of work suffers when I get pulled in a million different directions at once. Nobody is immune to that.
I don’t really have a nutrient company & don’t often use cannabis specific foods. I get decomposed granite from landscaping supply companies and screen it to separate the dust from the larger pieces. I use the dust as a mineral source in my homebrewed soils. Larger pieces get tossed in the garden outside or used in cactus soil. I use lots of Espoma brand stuff, mostly because its available & their tomato tone works very well in a “water only” mix. I do lots of gardening so there’s usually something on hand to mix into some cannabis soil when I’m making or reamending a batch. A fistful of this… a fistful of that. There’s a lot of wingin’ it going on… lol. I keep some General Organics bloom, calmag, epsom salts on hand in case I screw up… also dyna gro foliage pro if I screwed up really bad. I’ll even use some good ole osmocote plus if life is whipping my ass and I think I’m going to be too busy to give the ladies enough attention. Local sources of cow, chicken, goat, or whatever manure or worm poop are usually good. After you do it long enough, you get a good feel for what a decent mix feels like and learn to read plants pretty well. Time becomes the variable… thats the tough one.
What about you? What do you use? … soil… coco…hydro etc?
Thanks for the insight @Ivy . That’s interesting about exporting the bad packaging batch to outside vendors for cheap. Seems possible considering some of Amazon’s business practices. I think I’ll send a message to the Amazon vendor and see if I get an answer.
It does seem to be working just fine so probably nothing to worry about.
I run the Dr. Bugbee receipe slightly adjusted amounts: peat (75%), vermiculite (25%), worm castings, dolomitic lime, gypsum, epsom salt, amended with Pride Lands veg mix.
How’s the bugbee mix working out? Is it your fist go or have you been using it a while?
Just curious… I stay away from verm… I screw it up everytime I use that stuff… many folks have great success though, so I’m not knockin’ it.
My neighbor grows unhappy plants in my soil mix, and I do the same with his… but left to our own we produce some excellent plants. I dont care what science says… a soil mix is as individual to a person as it is to a plant.
Its working well so far. I ran happy frog in the 1g starter pots for a few week and transplanted into 5g pots with the Bugbee mix for a couple weeks and the plants are liking the bugbee mix better. I use less vermiculite than Bruce and the stuff I get is super coarse so it takes awhile to break down.
Does the vermiculite cause a toxicity or something for you?
Thats cool… always good to find something that works.
No toxicity. just a soil texture thing. For my style it keeps things a little too wet… I suppose if things are too wet and absorbing at less or more than ideal rates you could say it’s a toxicity/deficiency issue. I tend to do a little watering from the top to keep things moist up there or if I’m trying to water in a topdress or something specific w/ the majority of watering wicking up from the bottom. Doesn’t work well w/ vermiculite mixes in my experience, but I haven’t worked w/ the super coarse stuff. Others may have the opposite experience.
I work in agricultural research, a support role…not as a researcher (just a coincidence that my hobbies coincide)… more of a mechanical engineering/greenhouse design role. They are very impressed how some asshole longhaired blue collar guy knows so much about lighting spectrums, internodal spacing, photoperiod response…they always seem blown away that I’ve read their research papers…lol… if they only knew…
Anyhow, the point is, one researcher may use a peat based mix w/ verm while the other uses peat based w/ bark/perlite instead… both grow nice plants… not cannabis, but still healthy plants. Even at the professional level, soil of choice seems personal. Gotta go with what works and if it doesn’t work for you it doesn’t mean it sucks outright… its always possible you suck at using that medium. I totally suck at using vermiculite.
Oh I can totally understand the too much water with the verm. I’ve found that I water with the can the full amount and then partial with the sprayer when I add amendments.
That sounds like a great job! They think you reaaally like your job lol
I do think I’m going to cut the amount of vermiculite and substitute with perlite and see how the ladies like it.
I appreciate all the info and insight today.
