Pro Health Or Pro Vacination Whats The Difference?

Again, there is a difference between eating something, and injecting it directly into your blood stream.

I am a medical professional that deals with vaccines very closely. (I know, internet medical claims)

Vaccines, with a few exceptions, are vital to the health of our society. They prevent widespread disease in us and our food supply.
That being said, all vaccines are not created equal. I have refused to use some vaccines because they were either not efficacious or actually made the disease it was designed to prevent worse.
However, we need to drop the completely debunked stupidity that vaccines cause autism. Why is this even still a thing. I guess the internet has its down side.
Now Iā€™m gonna risk ruffling a few feathers. As far as the people making these videos goes, I donā€™t care how ā€œeducatedā€ they are supposed to be. If you think about it 4 out of 5 dentists say brushing your teeth help prevent cavitiesā€¦ what the heck is #5 thinking.
I know a doctor who actually believes the earth is flat and only 6000 years old. No amount of proof will change his mind. Just saying.
Also, vaccines are not injected into the blood stream. They are subcutaneous or intramuscular.

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The total absorption of elemental mercury is the same, accounting for differences in route of administration. Thatā€™s the whole point. Theyā€™re scientists, they know that ingested mercury isnā€™t as easily absorbed. Itā€™s not some ā€œgotchaā€ moment here.

OK, so excuse my ignorance on exactly where the vaccine is injected. Since you are educated on these matters please explain how mercury is good for people.

No one ever said mercury is good for people. But it is a great preservative for vaccines which I assume are rather delicate, and the amounts contained therein are not hazardous to human health.

Morphine isnā€™t good for people either but itā€™s one of the most common drugs in existence.

Accutain is bad for you but it cures acne. Every single medical procedure and drug has risks.

Vitamins can kill you in large doses.

Tylenol kills people.

Thimerosal is a mercury-containing compound that
prevents the growth of dangerous bacteria and
fungus. It is used as a preservative for flu vaccines
in multi-dose vials, to keep the vaccine free from
contamination. Thimerosal is also used during the
manufacturing process for some vaccines to prevent
the growth of microbes.
In 1999, as a precautionary measure, the U.S.
Public Health Service recommended removing
thimerosal as a preservative from vaccines to
reduce mercury exposure among infants as much
as possible.
Today, except for some flu vaccines in multi-dose
vials, no recommended childhood vaccines contain
thimerosal as a preservative.
In all other recommended childhood vaccines, no
thimerosal is present, or the amount of thimerosal
is close to zero.
No reputable scientific studies have found an
association between thimerosal in vaccines
and autism.
There are two different compounds that contain
mercury: ethylmercury and methylmercury. The low
levels of ethylmercury in vaccines are broken down
by the body differently and clear out of the blood
more quickly than methylmercury.
Sorry, forgot to say this is from the CDC.

They donā€™t accept arguments from credible/reputable/scientific sources.

I been tryinā€™.

Evidence against their view is just evidence of a larger conspiracy.

I know, itā€™s the usual playbook.

Iā€™m used to it. Iā€™m considered one of the ā€œIlluminatiā€ most of the time. :wink:

I wonder if the scientists and mathematicians who built the first computers wondered if their invention would later be used to promote anti-science views.

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They had no idea.

If you havenā€™t seen it, and not that many have, you should watch the movie ā€œChasing the Curveā€. Itā€™s a flat earth believers group and the movie shows how people refuse to accept results of experiments they designed because they prove the crazy theory they have wrong. I found it hard to believe people were that dense.

I thought the flat earthers were a joke society, like, a tongue-in-cheek funny thing people joined that were all in on the joke. Maybe thatā€™s how it started. You get a smattering of bible-thumpers who think the accepted cosmology is unbiblical, canā€™t help those people. You get a few schizophrenics as well, but thatā€™s just what they do. Itā€™s the otherwise reasonable people that scare me, and thereā€™s a bunch.

It did start out as a joke. The internet group that it started in got taken over by the whackos who really fell for the BS. Itā€™s now a ā€œrealā€ group. The doctor I know is personal friends with the guy in the video that is the supposed leader of the group.

If you put them in a spacesuit, dragged them at great expense to NASA into orbit, and said ā€œlook at this shitā€ theyā€™d claim itā€™s a simulation/hallucination/the devil.

I was on a cruise ship once (it was awesome btw) You can see the curvature with regular vision with a few cocktails in you, even.

Yā€™all crack me up. Same old playbook. Shame the dissenters into silence. Have fun with this thread. Iā€™m moving onto something productive. Have fun!!

Hi Bullit, can you please show me an independent, double blind study on vaccines, I cant seem to find any, as you work with vaccines you might be able to help me find some, to help me make a better informed decisionā€¦

How do you feel about the current framework of compulsory vaccinations and their schedule?

As I have said above in other posts, most ani vax people know vaccines work, but they want safer medicine.

Have you worked with antibody treatments, and if so what are your thoughts on their efficiency and use compared to vaccines?

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I did a random search for ā€œdouble blind placebo controlled studiesā€ , took 0.16 seconds to return 262,000 hits. Suspiciously easy to find examples. Some of those are repeats but the majority are not. Vaccines have been extensively studied and improved over their history.
There is a good reason for recommending and even requiring vaccines at certain ages. They tend to be related to ages of likely exposure and decline of the temporary immunity provided by the mother, as well as preventing spread throughout the public school system.

Antibody treatments, passive immunity, can be great for the short term but donā€™t stimulate any lasting immunity. For long term immunity active immunity is needed through vaccines or by contracting the actual disease, if you get lucky enough to survive the infection. This obviously depends on the pathogenicity of the bug in question. Also, consideration needs to be taken into account for damage from disease that can shorten life span even though you survived the initial infection.

This subject is too extensive, and widely accessible on the internet, for me to continue to explain it here. In the extensive subject of vaccines and immunity I have very little knowledge compared to a virologist, immunologist etc. and would defer to their expertise.

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For the blind sheep that believe that vaccines never cause autism. The man that defended the vaccines in vaccine court even says they do


https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/425061-how-a-pro-vaccine-doctor-reopened-debate-about-link-to-autism

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Yes I have probably seen those as well.

Sorry to waste your time even if it was 0.16 seconds, I was rushing to get to costco before the hordes descended, and had not had my morning coffee, to kick start my brain.

I meant, the studies of vaccines and autism that you and others keep saying are not reputable scientific studies. Which ones have you read, I have found and read some of the pub med studies, of thimerosal use and MMR, I just want to compare and see what the difference is between what is classed as reputable or not. Also if you know of any studies that show how the other vaccines function when in combination with MMR, I have not found any of those. If not I will carry on my own investigations.

Most experts is not all, currently means it may change. More legal speak so they cant be sued if evidence changes.

No I dont. I did not say, I stopped eating for a month, I did not say my mouth was wired up, I did not say I was chained to a bed and starved, just in case you were thinking of using these statements as well.

I said, I was put of a calorie restricted diet. A diet from the doctor that my parents put into practice.
If you cant remember what I have written or have trouble comprehending it, please use the quote tool.

Depending on the size of the person and type of tuna there will be different levels of toxicity. So if its 25 mcg for 84 grams of tuna roughly, a 60 kilo person would be, according to the FDA, able to eat, with out going over the advised safety limit of 0.1 mcg per kilo of body weight, an amount of 20.68 grams of tuna containing 6 mcg of methylmercury a day.

If it was a baby they would not be able to eat tuna anyway, but if they could, an 8lb baby would be able to safely eat 1.37 grams of tuna.or 0.4 mcg of methylmercury a day, according to the FDA.

So that can of tuna is very pretty toxic, not sure what point you are trying to make.

I am not going to assume you know what your talking about again.

If your point is someone can eat a whole can of tuna without worry, then I dont think so, according to the FDA, but thatā€™s a persons choice to ignore government health warnings, and create health problems. You dont get a choice if you want a vaccination or not, if its in the schedule.

This difference between what is safe and not safe, is alarming to me, and would dictate not having the vaccination. How does each individual know how they are going to react to these levels of toxicity, short term and 40 or 50 years down the line, if we are lucky enough to get there.

Hey mister you dropped this.