I’ll be taking pre-flower clones, but I’m thinking strictly of sexing because I’ll be moving the males to a different area until it’s sexy time for our women!
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So I’d like to take the 
mantle & draft a message to be sent on this project’s behalf asking for a semi-formal approval, yea or nay from the Bodhi himself. 
Since this beast is collective in nature it’s important that anyone involved who wants their words included be part-author, imp, whatever.
I personally don’t have an Instagram acct so if that is the most appropriate way I have to ask for an OGer here to relay it. 
So… (stoner excuse, delay 
)
Please hit the reply to my post(not the thread) & it should be easier to keep organized, if you can.
Thanks 
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Great idea! I don’t do instagram though please include me in the message
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Sounds great, but we should probably have a well known member be the one to send it.
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I can do it, if you deem me worthy.
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You’ve got my vote @MadScientist
An update, I received and installed the new blumat blusoak sub-irrigation system today.
Burying the 2nd blusoak and storing the 3rd soaker tube because it wasn’t needed.
The worms came out to say hello! Dozens, of all sizes, came to the surface when I started digging in the soil
The completed system!
A 15 gallon reservoir, the carrot & soaker hoses, and a purge shutoff valve. The soakers cover the whole planter with each hose section placed at 8" on center. I still need to dial it in, because I forgot to presoak the blumat carrots. Once they soak for a few hours I’ll open the valves and won’t have to worry about watering again, just refilling the reservoir.
It looks like the seedlings are going to be big enough to take cotyledon samples at least a month before I’d be able to do a clone sex test, so I’m going to order the test from Phylos and hope for a quick turnaround on them.
(If anyone know of a working “referral code” or “discount code” for Phylos I’d love to be able to use one.)
Best practices for blumat soaker hose: make sure your soil depth is at least 2 foot, because the top 4-6 inches will remain dry; open up the flow control carrot way farther than you do using just a carrot dripper.
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@ReikoX where do you send off for your sex testing (BTW I graded your last test, and you got F’d. . .Good job lol 
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Whwn breeding, What real advantage do you get by knowing the sexes early ?
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If I can identify the sexes early then I can plant all the females into the 4’x4’ planter and pamper them with all the possible space they can get. Then I can take the males and plant them into 5 gallon smart pots in a different area. When it’s time to pollinate I’ll just run each male out to the girls and shake him all about.
I want to do it this way for a couple of reasons. The first is that I’ve witnessed, and read about, plants being far healthier when they planted together in the same soil. All the plants, cannabis and clover in my case, work with the mycorrhyzal fungus to provide each plant with what it might be lacking.
The second is that I believe the ovary possessing plants (our females) are passing on their methylation of the epigenetics to the resulting seeds. Methylation coding for the epigenetics of a seed are transferred ONLY by the mother plant and therefore I want it to have as little stress as possible. Studies have shown that reduced stress in mother plants (all organisms coded by DNA in fact) can result in a reduction in previous stress induced methylation of the epigenetics and it prevents further methylation linked to stress responses.
A seed that has stress induced methylation is more likely to be primed for a life that will require it to survive increased environmental stresses. This causes the plant to produce chemicals that will allow it to survive those stresses, but also takes energy away from other things like the trichome production pathway.
It’s been a few years since I studied up on Evolutionary Genetics, so if anyone sees anything wrong in this summary please speak up! I love to learn new stuff so I have a lot of gratitude for people that teach me new knowledge 
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I’ve done both the Phylos and the Steep Hill sex test kit. Phylos can be taken earlier, but the Steep Hill was easier IMO. Turn around time was about the same.
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Thank you ReikoX! That’s exactly what I was hoping for.
I should have the tests in a couple days and hope to have results by the start of next week.
Finished dialing in the blumat carrots so the whole system is on autopilot once I get the seedlings into the planter.
Also moved the plants above the planter for the time being so that the clover can develop while I wait on sex testing. The seedlings are still so small that they only really need watered once a week at this point.
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I like planning ahead for how I’m going to simplify my seed sorting. I’ve done a bunch of research and contemplated the full process, based on past experiences, and I believe the best affordable option for deseeding our finished plants will be to run them through a tumbler. Doing this will allow me to dry the plants, chill them and then tumble them to remove the trichomes.
Once the trichomes have been removed I can remove all the seeds that have fallen out, which should be most of them, and hand remove any stray seeds without fear of losing/ruining trichomes. As a bonus, the seeds should be lightly scarified without causing any damage to them! Our seeds don’t need to be resilient against the outdoor environment the way other seeds in a natural environment would, so early scarification shouldn’t be an issue.
I have a bunch of flower that I’ll be testing in it before we need it for doing SSDD seed separation and I’ll document that process on this linked thread so we can all see how it performs.
(I’ve asked LemonadeJoe to see if the linked thread should be merged with a similar one, so I’ll fix the link above if it’s needed in the future.)
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if money is an issue… i’m not sure but there are rock tumblers for half that price or less from harborfreight tools, fyi.
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The price was just low enough that I could justify it. The fact that I can dry sift all the flowers from past harvests and mulch the greens, saving a TON of space, definitely tipped the scale. I should receive it shortly.
How is everyone using the rock tumbler? Are they using it to dry sift & how are they modifying it to do that?
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I was just thinking on the fly of what might work…the description of the rock tumbler says it’s also good for removing heavy rust from nuts & bolts(using an abrasive media with it), so it might be too violent (dunno 
) and certainly wouldn’t sift it but possibly get all the seeds out in a half a second. 
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Better get a good first run in, cause all that keif is gonna suck to clean out of it. Lol
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Everclear to clean it and then you can make it into tincture (green dragon). . . Might have to figure out how to deoxycarb it first though
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90 days in a cool dark place will do it automatically.
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Really? I’ve got a quart Mason jar of green dragon that’s been sitting for months. Never got around to doing anything with it. Might reduce it and making Edibles if it’s already decarbed.
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In my experience three months will do it. Try some of it and see if you get an effect?
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