Beautiful man @50State
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Sorry to not have spoken much. I have sent out many more seeds than I asked for or received so no I am not here to collect and not give. Quite the opposite.
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I remember Tom Hill saying he never culled plants the first time around, not even hermies. He talked about how he lost 2 exceptional expressions of his haze by culling âweakerâ plants early on.
And an example from personal experience: when I f2âd a pack couple years ago I excluded a male and a female from the open pollination. This female looked and smelled weird, grew slow and I could never keep her happy. Turned out she was the keeper, I had a clone of her and 2 males so I did a 2nd batch of seeds. Now the f2s are somewhat incomplete, I will never know what I lostâŚheh
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and methods about our favorite plants mr nube
Cheers
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Thank you for all of your time and effort that you put into preservation runs @nube! Labor of love or not, it is still very much labor. I appreciate you! Positive vibesâŚ
~nugzz
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I also learned this lesson the hard way but instead of culling I excluded a runt from pollination and didnât take clones because of its runt status. After harvesting the plant and smoking it I was shocked to find a taste almost exactly like strawberry preserves.
Needless to say I was highly upset with myself but a lesson well learned.
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Same here, Iâm a fan of 9LB and the Afgooey dom pheno. Should be interesting.
Thanks @nube for this awesome run! I appreciate your efforts to preservation within the community.
Germination looks great the tails on them are long! Sucks to have lost some due to surgery or poor germ issues. The plants look awesome so far that Iâll be following along!
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I believe these are going to the co-ops. Theyâre not an order thing. The strains on @Sebringâs site are all donated to him, or produced by him and he does occasional âdropsâ and makes some available.
The co-ops you only use the OG shipping here:
If you pay attention to the fall co-op thread, Sebring will say when to start paying.
This is all provided youâre in the US, other countries have different distributors
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Thanks! I discovered his artwork through my Tool fandom. We went to his NYC gallery when he still had it. Truly mind-blowing stuff!
Get his facts straight? Assumptions? This what @nube said in his post that seems to have offended youâŚ
So, what facts arenât straight? What assumptions did he make?
Hereâs a fact: your very first post in this entire thread is the one where you were offended by being called out for not engaging in this thread. 
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I am a supporter of overgrow, but itâs all good bro, you do what youâve got to do.
Yâall be good to one another.
fr0g_D
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I fully agree, with my limited experience Iâve already seen that the runt of the litter can turn out to be a winner. I got in a very small space so I just run a few seeds at a time and let me roll. Iâm doing this Iâve found most of my favorites have been the slowest to get goin!
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Absolutely. Some will look like theyâll achieve nothing and by the 5th week they just take off
Then thereâs the runty plant you spend 2 months vegging and itâs still 2 foot tall, you look at its clone you took a month ago and itâs 4 foot tall and luxuriant.
The most frustrating plant I encountered was a keeper female without pistils, well very very few. I could only make seeds 10/plant at a time. Nuts lol
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Just donât put the vase/top in a tote like I did⌠Mold all over them in 48h in a air tight tote. Next time I will try outside with lid cracked for air exchange.
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Thereâs sort of a double function on Sebrings siteâŚ
He collects a couple bucks per co-op strain you signed up for. This covers packaging and mailing for the fall and spring boxes (pretty amazing if you stop and think about it!) 
Also, he âsellsâ any surplus seeds that have been donated (thatâs the neat looking out of stock stuff)⌠It can be confusing, especially when this is newâŚ
Cheers
G
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I forgot all about that. Lol⌠couldnât you tell. I was obviously confused. I had a TBI a few years back and it really messed with my memory. And if you read the entire thread you saw I mentioned that if I came off aggressive, then that wasnât my intent. I reread it and realized my error. Thus adding another post.
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My sympathies, but when you made your post, you didnât have to rely on your memory. You couldâve easily searched the thread and realized that you had not yet posted - which is what @nube was saying. Instead, you reacted out of emotion.
Yeah, well - I read your post and then I replied. I didnât wait until I read all the way down to the end.
lolâŚyour post didnât just âcome off aggressiveâ - it was rude, inconsiderate and wrong, but Iâm sure that wasnât your intent either, right?
BTW - you can delete your offending post, and itâll be like it never even happened.
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No it was not my intent to come off as rude. I know a 1000 ways to be a dick but didnât realize I was being one. If I wanted to be a dick, I would have taken a different approach. Also, I thought for some reason I couldnât edit old posts. I tried to correct something in another thread, but it said I couldnât. So I assumed that after a certain amount of time, or something, that it was uneditable.
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You have 30 days, I think, to edit a post, and that might apply to deleting, too.
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Thanks for the info. Like most, I am learning everyday still. Also, I do apologize I really didnât mean to sound so rude. I was trying to figure out what was taking place. I was pinged in a post that I forgot I made a commitment to observe, comment and help with grow thatâs my bad. Apologies @nube
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Had to work yesterday, also made dogfood and potted up some plants. Full day! Today is shucking these lovelies, which were at day 49F in the following pics. 
Whole tent:
Pheno #7:
Pheno #8:
Pheno #9:
Pheno #10: starting to go feral, needing support, so I delicately gave her a cage.
Pheno #11:
Not too much else to report aside from theyâre starting to look a little ragged, which to me usually means the pollination was successful and, as a result, their hormones are all wackadoodle. I think you can even see some seeds popping out if you zoom in.
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Looking good @nube! Btw, if youâre still curious, I came across this in another post. @Upstate certainly seems to have plenty of experience with landraces, and he agrees that when they regress to a wild state they end up in a 25/50/25 distribution. He might not have been published like Clarke has, but I think he works with enough landraces to be a valuable source of empirical evidence, since thereâs not enough real science yet to tell one way or the other.
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