Seed Runs Co-Op Logistics/Cost/OT Discussion Megathread

[George]

Well, after reading this thread guess it would be unjust just having the Seed runs in the Private lounge. Level 2 and 3 as MOTR stated seems the best choice, but as I would like to keep the free seeds junkies away, I would like to propose taking away Breede’rs Lab and Trading post from that viewable content without any registration and put it available only for Member status and higher (levels 2 & 3).

Not only for security reasons but also to reward people that really deserve it and create a filter for those that only look for freebies and have no interest in joining the community. Guess we are ready to come to conclusions …

[Sebring]

Lol, you just described the free seed site I started.

[ttutone]

Is it possible to add a level so that we could get the best of both worlds? That way you would stay a regular if you had other obligations for a while but drop off of (regular+ (name of new level)) if you didn’t fully participate.

[LemonadeJoe]

Unfortunately trust levels are feature of the system and is it not possible to put in new levels… we can only fine tune requirements for those levels…

But once you reach tl3 for the first time, “Regular badge” is earned for life, so that can be the sign you are looking for… see more here: https://overgrow.com/t/about-the-private-lounge-category/22329

Badge is permanent, actual trust level is not… (you can go back from tl3 to tl2) as I explained earlier…

I see proposed solution as great compromise…

@MomOnTheRun

The preservation runs will be accessible to level 2+ members - In each journal, we’ll have 2 numbered lists…1 for level 3 and 1 for level 2 members so in the event of a limited seed count level 3 members shall come 1st.

All preservation runs will have its own category…

[MomOnTheRun]

@neogitus

IMO 2 dollar per strain is too cheap. Would be too easy to benefit the server costs by upping it to like 5. Small difference in cost but with all the people going nuts over seeds this could really support this expensive website. Sometimes an almost free for all isn’t the best option.

True though we have to start somewhere in the increase - lets get this going in the new section and re-evaluate it in May after Meesh has done the 1st round of accounting on it and we can see where we are at

@neogitus

I also don’t think pips or trust levels are a very good way to gauge someones activity/trust on the site. Basically what my opinion is that the people who have been here longest or those who have made the most monthly payments to the server should get priority, not how many posts of pips you have because some people are less talkative.

Right. I am a lurker myself and follow a lot of posts so frequently get booted out of TL3 not viewing the newer posts unless I have time to do so though have to have it to be a leader (TL4) so its a catch 22. We have also seen a few “trusted” members receive a pack of high value seeds then not hear from them again…for this the only real way to combat that is to have the donator comfortable with the breeder…very few breeders though when its more organized I am hopeful this will change

@Craigson15

Im assuming breeder and donator get first access to beans regardless of trust level etc???

Whelp, imho, that’s a no brainer as the one donating seeds often wants some back and should. As far as, breeders wanting other strains than they are running they’ll have to sign up on those lists just like the distributors do. This way we can keep it fair when seeds are limited…hopefully, it won’t be an ongoing problem though since it has happened a couple times we must have it addressed

@neogitus

I think the people doing the work deserve to have more for the collection or grow. Maybe a few packs at least and not just one.

I don’t know about the others but there are only so many strains I can run so would rather pass them onto someone else. Now with that said, the strains coming out in the December box are special packs just for the distributors …i’ll have to look again though I don’t think anyone donated them to preserve except for Herijuana but I am sure that the breeders will have a special pack for them as well

[LemonadeJoe]

OK, so category is now live: #breeders-lab:seed-runs-co-op

Rules were wikified and moved to separate topic:

About the Seed Runs Co-op Read before you participate

Seed Runs Co-op is collective effort to preserve some rare cannabis strains and keep them available to our members. It is community-driven and non-commercial activity of breeders, seed producers, testers and all growers of Overgrow. You need to be at least Member (trust level 2) to post in this category and participate in seed runs. How Seed Runs Co-op work here on Overgrow? The preservation runs will be accessible to level 2+ members - In each journal, we'll have 2 numbered lists.....1 for…

[slain]

I am likewise happy to make seeds for people till the cows come home, getting my shit together to be doing all that packaging and mailing is my problem Now IF I could just produce the seeds and send them in bulk to someone with far more patience and attention span that I have for packaging then I’d be happy to dedicate 2 tents to it on a near full time basis… after all I gotta make my own beans anyway, might as well make enough to go around… It should be real obvious to anyone who participates to any level on OG that all it takes is to be friendly and to be part of the community and in no time people will be offering to send you free beans just because they have them spare.

Personally as I say I do reckon if it was feasible that the fiddly individual packaging was done by someone other than the breeder then it would go a long way to sharing the work and imho would probably mean that there would be more breeders willing and able to participate and/or dedicate grow space to the cause…

[Heritagefarms]

@slain The preservation runs are set up with distributors In the way you describe. Check out the other preservation thread. The community could definetly use a few more breeders for preservation purposes.

[GMan]

Yeah, I can see that. I’m on such a limited income atm, that growing alone is lucky to be taking place. I’m more than happy to do the seeds as well, once I finish this new space. Very close.

I’ll actually be doing a preservation of a discontinued strain a friend asked me to do next run. I’ll ask him if he wants to donate the majority of seeds to the Co-Op as long as he gets a good many f2s for himself. He’s not a member here atm, but I will ask him to join, too.

I only have 5 seeds and it’ll be an open pollination if all goes well. I won’t say what until I ask what his feelings on the matter would be.

But, for now, I’d have a tough time with all of the organization and shipping the seeds. peace

[slain]

Cool well that sounds pretty bloody easy then… now I am wondering why everyone isn’t making beans like there is no tomorrow I am more than happy to be a breeder for either indoor and/or outdoor preservation runs…

[Heritagefarms]

I did one preservation run , dident get as many beans as I expected the male just wasent producing pollen like im used to . I’m going to try and do at least one or two a year but If we all did that we could realy achieve alot.

[Danonly]

@LemonadeJoe @MomOnTheRun I cant find the private lounge. am i not high enough trust level??

[GrapeApe]

You need to view some more topic… That’s the only thing holding you back.

[MomOnTheRun]

@Danonly

@LemonadeJoe @MomOnTheRun I cant find the private lounge. am i not high enough trust level??

You should be able to find it at the level you are… if not, here is the direct link - if still no access then GrapeApe is right

[Danonly]

yep, access denied! thanks for helping me out with that MOTR . I’ll go view some more topics. thanks for the info grape ape.

[LemonadeJoe]

@Danonly, you are currently trust level 2 Member… And for Private lounge you need tl3 Regular…

@GrapeApe

You need to view some more topic… That’s the only thing holding you back.

Follow great advice from @GrapeApe and you’ll be fine… Check out this topic for more info about levels.

[Danonly]

well, looked at a few more topics than i wanted to over the last day… lol now i’m “regular”. d

[Olbrannon]

@Danonly

now i’m “regular”

“Quaker Oats feels good twice!”

[Craigson15]

Im just curious as i noticed the seed co-op section got moved to breeders Lab.

After all that is it now NOT Private??
Or is it still Private but moved to Breeders Lab??

Cheers