Seed Runs Co-Op Logistics/Cost/OT Discussion Megathread

Hello folks!!! Glad to meet everybody here. I’m from Brazil and since we are without distribuitors to Latin America people, i’ll try to stay in charge of this assignment. I’m not a senior grower like Mad (the last LA distribuitor) or other good growers in this region that could help the distribuition, but i’m sure i want to contribute with the OG community in some way, so i decided to give a try in the distribuition task. I have the primary help from Sebring, but of course, any hints and tips from other members will be very pleasurable. If any member from LA region read this post, please let me know and let’s chat via PM.

Peace! :pray: :blush: :green_heart:

25 Likes

Hi. So I am currently doing a Zacateca’s Tribute (Big Sur Hollyweed x Oaxaca 79Skull) seed run with 2 males and 2 females. I am going to spread these seeds by a small donation to a charity (Probably Bladder Cancer and/or an Environmental Charity), Ill set it up through through some sort of donation website so I never touch the money, so is no worry about where the money goes. I plan to cover the shipping cost.

Does this count as Co-op run? The Freakers seems like something I may want to try to get into next year, but I’m not willing to sacrifice my idea of starting to charity seeds runs in my tent. Like many here, I am too wealthy in flower and want to use this plant and peoples enthusiasm for genetics for a good cause.

16 Likes

My thought is that it wouldn’t. There’s a $2 per strain donation to the OG server fund required to get Co-Op seeds. Sebring collects that when the boxes are ready, and forwards the donations to OG.

When you think about the number of people who signup for the Co-Op runs, it’s a decent chunk of money. If you bypass that piece, I’m not sure if you could call it a Co-Op run. But seeing how I wasn’t around when the Co-Op was setup, I’m gonna punt. :slight_smile:

@zephyr, what do you think man?
:guitar:

11 Likes

I would think it doesnt count. Here is the page to Co-Ops info.

9 Likes

Fair enough! Just thought I would ask. :pray:

8 Likes

@Guitarzan @TopicalWave
interesting question.

This wouldn’t work with our standard co-op shipping infrastructure.

But we built some flexibility into the rules so that people could handle shipping themselves, or delegate shipping to multiple members. For division of labor, and for people who needed additional assistance.

My volunteer roll in the co-op is answering questions, or referring people to the appropriate co-op member to talk to. Please check with @Sebring as well because this involves some of his volunteer responsibilities.

This is my understanding based on the current rules in place. First of all, everything is subject to the approval of the community as a whole. This is a true decentralized democracy.

@TopicalWave please check with the @moderators about the using the $2 per strain donation for a different charity instead of the server fund.

They have allowed all of us to create and participate in this co-op. You need to get their approval to use the charitable donation for a different charity instead of the site maintenance and server fund.

I think this charity project could be allowed as a co-op run if you handle the shipping yourself, and follow all of the existing rules for strain eligibility and sign up process.

For the charity donation, I think it would be ok if you are not requiring a donation higher than the cost shipping plus the standard 2$ per strain donation. people can donate more if they want, but 2$ is the baseline donation in our rules to keep it inclusive.

It would need to be paid directly to the charity like you said. otherwise there would be the possibility of people abusing this charitable donation option in the future.

This needs to be open and accessible to people from all countries and territories.

There are 2 options for the cost of shipping. you could volunteer to pay for shipping and materials yourself. If you need to be reimbursed for shipping, that will be handled through our existing donation infrastructure. People would donate to sebring, sebring would reimburse you for the cost of shipping. You need to have documented receipts for packaging and shipping expenses to be reimbursed.

Read about sebrings role in our shipping process, and his role in international shipping. If you will need his help with any of those steps, that will need to be worked out between the two of you because this isn’t following the usual methods of reimbursing him for the postage and materials, and you’ll need to ask him about anything that would result in additional work for him.

I would suggest posting this question in the co-op logistics thread, and see what the community thinks.

If the community and @Sebring (who is in charge of donation and reimbursement) is ok with this, and you get approval from the mods, I think you could proceed as a co-op project if you follow these rules.

And of course, if people are not interested in using the co-op this way, no worries. This is a true democracy, so it is fine either way.

10 Likes

Yes, of course, no worries either way. I am not looking to rock the boat and what the Freakers/Co-op do is awesome.

I have come to a realization recently that what truly makes me happy is helping people. I think as I have been helping my father through his battle with bladder cancer for the last two years, my empathetic side blossomed. It is why I stopped land surveying and am going back to school for social work. I don’t have much money myself, so I tend to donate my time and energy to my community now. I just recently joined the community and seeing the generosity of people here, I hoped to raise a little money with my modest pollen chucking. This seemed like the right platform to try it on. Right now it is just an idea that hasn’t fully coalesced yet, and I maybe should have approached a Mod before I said anything. I still have to make sure I end up with viable seed before I proceed with this… it is just an idea right now. I am more interested in raising money for a few charities than I being eligible for Freakers/Co-op membership, so truly no worries either way.

I was planning to cover shipping costs myself, unless it gets too taxing. I was also planning to use some sort of charity website of some sort and set it up so I don’t actually touch the money and people can see a running tally of the amount of money raised. Again something I would need to look into. I’m happy to work with the Co-op to be eligible, but if the community doesn’t approve of it or it is too complicated for what I am thinking, I am happy to go my own way and try to do this myself.

@moderators , @Sebring What do you think?

15 Likes

@TopicalWave when this goes through, I will be the first to sign up and donate. I can also help cover some of the cost to send them out, if that’s ok with you.

Wish you the best with this bro. Very honourable of you 🥲

11 Likes

Sounds like a great idea, I’m looking forward to following the project. Best wishes to your dad.

4 Likes

I have to be honest, I haven’t been following the co-ops closely recently. They are awesome though.

@Sebring has been the main man assisting with many of the distribution efforts.

And, also best wishes for the father’s recovery. Thanks for being here on OG.

8 Likes

Yes

sebringseeds.com would be what you’re looking for.

Absolutely a yes, always. Free the seeds, Overgrow the world!

Just create a new topic under:

16 Likes

Thank you @Sebring ! I am very excited to share some Zacateca Tribute ( I think I heard Vermontman has retired from the cannabis industry to focus on his orchid breeding ) and to raise some money for a good cause.

@zephyr Is there a way to make a poll on here? I was thinking I would give the community a few options for the charity we choose to support, I was thinking of a cancer charity, an environmental charity, and one for the people struggling in Afganistan. But I am completely open to suggestions. I will do a little research first and pick some ones that don’t have too high admin costs. Also, should I wait until I have seeds in hand before I make a thread?

Thank you everyone for the support so far… I cant wait to raise some money for a great cause of the OG communities choosing!

One of the abused males… :slight_smile:

18 Likes

@TopicalWave mate the Moderators have nothing to do with the co-op runs, plus the $2 per strain is for the distributors to use for supplies etc and then if they have any extra - then it’s supposed to go to the server fund …!

I hope this helps …
:facepunch:
Happy growing peeps …

Gaz

6 Likes

Hey bud, I may be wrong but I think the $2 donation goes straight to the server fund. When the co-op spring and fall boxes go out it’s $2 per strain to the server fund and you also pay shipping. That’s my understanding anyway.

7 Likes

I don’t have enough extra money to send to the server funds - if you look somewhere it also says that “ ANY fees OVER $185USD - will then be forwarded to the server fund”
I have been a part of these co-op runs since the start - i used to send to the Eu but after Brexit, it changed to @Swe-can as the Eu distro …:facepunch:

I hope this helps , remember ,those ‘rules’ were written by @MomOnTheRun a while ago - if anyone has any better way to go about this - your welcome to put whatever you suggest to the members and then vote on it etc.
:ok_hand: !
Gaz

13 Likes

Thanks bud. I was under the impression that the $2 per strain went right to the server fund but you are correct, it does help pay for shipping and packing to send seeds to the distributors. It does look like most of the $2 per strain does go to the server though. The same doc does say “members are encouraged to donate these items so the 155.00 per distributor is a back up only as an extra assurance the community will receive these strains.” But you are 100% correct about it also going to shipping and packing. Thanks for the info, much appreciated.

10 Likes

I hear that. I joined this community because the people here seemed to have a core belief in, well, people. And growing. And spreading altruistic intentions. Hope it doesnt turn out like that.

2 Likes

(Cbd) rich blessing

Are these’s still being looked for I guess the label is wrong on the lineage

6 Likes

I don’t know if this is the best thread to ask this question in… but I was wondering if anyone could talk a bit about the logistics of doing a Co-Op seed run. A grower would need to produce about 3000 seeds (1500, plus 1500 backup)? Three or four distributors to be sent to when everything’s done?

6 Likes

4K is a good number to shoot for.
That sounds like a lot but it can be easily done on a plant or two. Doug’s gotten ‘north’ of 10K from one plant more than once… :rofl:

The beans go to two distributors, Doug and G-pas, & G-pas sends to the international distributors.

Best to talk with @G-paS but I’d suggest you wait until the ‘spring boxes’ are dealt with (she’s really busy right now…).

Cheers
G

9 Likes