Intention appreciated.
I’ve started to make my seeds with landraces first, then explored after hybrids.
And hell yeah it change the perspective quite a bit. I don’t know the TK but i saw it in many growlogs, considering its shape and manner to flower i can take the (not so) risk to say you that this outcrosses is a breeze for your indian. Like i don’t know a loaded truck attached to an Austin Mini. The one that will pull the other is the truck-landrace at middle term. Not the same genetic weight then ponderation at all.
It don’t say it’s easy, it will revolve on the accuracy of your selection. But the ground is in fact quite favorable. Understanding the sense of the river should change your perspective in term of sequence of this project.
That’s not exact. Without any timeline set, this sentence is irrational. And specifically for your case.
Actually i had a lot of hot debates about it around a ashtray, with people actually smoking in front of me what they considered as not possible to happen ^^
It’s not only about the time passed at it off course, but also the experience built during this time. And at the end of these hot debates generally, people start to confess that they have no timeline and procedure in head while they were saying it’s not possible.
I know it’s a bit arid over to throw you a magic BX recipe “that work all the time”, but the plants will decide themselves what’s the best manner to reveal what you want. With backward, why not saying that finally breeding is just insuring to the plants that they never fall in a dead end ? Everything else is contextual cooperation.
Some are divas too, they can need a BX at generation X and just to be screened hardly at generation XY … but yes hermaphrodism reinforcement can be a lot of doors to a dead end. These fuckers sometimes evade the genpool with all the silverware.
Launch all seeds, we are not talking about 100 or 200 seeds choice. It’s just a standard pack of seed.
Make these 100/200, specifically if it count for two projects. Limiting your material so much (then your chances) to gain only one generation of repro isn’t strategic.
Recovering a single expression is do-able for anyone (not joking) with enough will to be well focused and organized. Working two traits at a time is directly the wall most of wannabe crash on fast then gave up. I’ve saw a few good potentials trashed like this, but generally with a bazillion of constraints they can’t handle at a time.
Just don’t fight them buddy, these ladies will naturally segregate on extreme representative expression if you keep them inbred. Split dedicated lines, then it’s in one of these lines that you will recover your indian. With males in bonus.
But not in a single generation. Take a paper and simulate the number of round you can do in one year and how it’s adapted to your context. Then re-write until you find the best reliable way for you in term of time. Aim something included between 2 years and 5 years.
What the diva need the more in term of food ? It’s a N hungry ? a P hungry ? a K hungry ?
Can she resist high or low PH ?
How many time she take to reach the Xth node ?
How look its root mass ?
How many to clone it (first root, not calllus) ?
Oh wait … it’s knowing the expression to screen it later. The mapping.
Oh wait … let’s look again this planning i wrote, and transform it in a breeding plan with this.
At the point of the sequence, you’re trying to cherry-pick a final prototype not even made. Starting by the end. I listen your goals, but it’s not the right time for it and it’s way too soon. One time you have isolated the specimens producing this smoke after this outcross, in screening out the TK, there is a phase of reinforcement that is prone to outperform the previous averages. Specially with landraces ^^
Your only concerns at this point is to secure your genetic with enough seeds to be autonomous, but also to understand what is producing this chemotype in linking it with things you can easily spot on the plants. It’s why it’s important to keep it simple and rationnal with the amount of (real) experience you have on this expression.
Trust me, i’m living it since March 2023 ^^ Literrally. Not mouses for me but herms reinforcement produced by very bad strategies. The first round was epic, only one female reliable in the first batch. So i got in urgency 10 more seeds … to have the luck to find only one reliable male on it. That’s not the epic part, but the synchro to cross the two before the female die with a very large gap of maturity of course. I played razor edge, but a third line in hand ready to shoot if any … a cousin.
You can argue that i can buy again the packs but it’s not so different your know. It cost money, it take time to land here, and i knew already that they are hardly herm with a high chances to don’t get any reliable specimen.
Being aware of the real challenge and facing it when it become even more difficult that it was planned, are two different things.
I’m forced to live it because the said source doesn’t have any employee anymore able to see a viable seed from a fucked one deformed and immature.
I will never forgive myself if it happened with my own seeds. Securing your need for seeds, is also making all your possible to avoid this case. OG is a place where you can get this expertise quite easily, there is a lot of people here in ease with seeds production.
I’m not talking about male’s ratio of course. My last order contain 20 (paid) immature seeds totally fucked, i’m forced to extract the embryos from the seeds to maximize the number of specimens alive, and maybe to get one good pairing. With the threat of hermaphrodism in top of it.
I repeat, i signed for the hell in knowing it. But not before having the tools to face it the best way i can.
You don’t realize yet the crazy difficulty you set this way, in top of the initial project.
It can produce (good) commercial grade fems without any doubt.
I agree but you strictly do all you can to obtain it too. Reversing the ultra valuable specimens you have is like i don’t know … not realizing the gold this first error have produced.
The expression of hermaphrodism have no layers or levels. On time it’s triggered, there is no much other output that the urgent need to make a shit ton of seed because you will have to cull a shit ton of progeny.
I know it’s not what you want to listen at this point, and i understand it more than you can guess. It’s a bias we have all and that never stop to haunt our bad decisions.
I can’t tell who/what because i’m still in discussion about it. But recently, i launched a line i cared about and the breeder is strictly my hero in breeding since i’m a teenager. The emotional charge is maximal. The release of the said breeder when i first experienced it was just the apogee of 90’s in term of genetic quality. Overall.
Needless to say that i’m actually experiencing the same quality that the very first hard discount of seeds, Nirvana ^^ with this release i was so happy to return at it. Outside all what is representing this strain for me, the weed really missed as fuck.
I ended with 2 clean females, and 5 males. All males turned herms. Two are remaining isolated in my pollination box atm, i’ve not find the guts yet to kill them.
1 : Because mentally and emotionally it took me more than a week to process it.
2 : Because it mean I’ve to outcross it with an unplanned pollen (from OG and that was planned for a joint venture canceled, that’s the funny part).
I know the price to pay if i want to keep it pure : a shit show that will take me years to wash. Making totally pointless the simple fact to have repro it. Just an useless psychological line. Am I fighting myself to don’t do it each day ? Yes.
I hate from the depth of my soul everything revolving around herms, but you can see even with experience and in knowing it’s the worse thing to do to this line … it’s only tomorrow that i will cull these fucking males and de-freeze the unplanned pollen.
The worse is that the line is enough worked to don’t give a shit about a single outcross, specifically with this pollen. I only need to get another pack, and cross this F1 with it and i’m good. I know enough the line to deal with this emergency injection without much legit fear to lost its inherent particularity.
The brain have to be bred too sometimes …
What a combo-opportunity. It was difficult to find a source i can really trust, but i finally got a reliable C91 … in S1^^ It will land here within a week.
I know already the hell it will be to calm it. It’s already an unstable cut and selfed in top of it. It wasn’t enough trashed lol
But my will to explore it to understand the SD is enough strong to sign for the hell with it. The outcross and the program is set, end of spring i tempt my chance. I’ve never grown any Chem cut but the #4 in top of it.
The difference between the hero-strain and the C91 full of herms is that the use of the first is already planned and have a sense.
The C91 is an exception of the rule that will be entered just like i entered the worse thaï i can find. The chances of success are minimalist to wash it, maybe a 25% at most with enough time. The chance to reinforce the weed experienced directly in S1 much lower.
In the first case i refuse to pollute something i can directly save, even in turning around. In the second case, the genetic is already fucked to the bone i just place my casino chips on the 91 red ^^
I don’t even know if all of this have a sense with all THC in blood, but it’s nice to share all aspects of the equation anyway.