They’re both recommended to be placed in spots where fires could originate vs using them to throw into well-established large fires (though that’s part of sales pitches for both).
If Elide would make an effort to make some decorative balls like AFO, I bet they’d take market share away from AFO without feeling the need to sue their way to market share.
While I too would want to watch some videos not from the manufacturer, and will, I disagree about the sizing. The AFG mini comes with a ring on the top to hang it that is clearly not present here. I think they’re doing a fair 1:1 product comparison.
I gotta imagine something in there is overall better than nothing in terms of piece of mind, realistically the tents are in houses with thier own fire alarms, so any additional suppressive support if a fire were to break out is buying you time to get things under control right?
Aside from the fact that one of the Elide videos has balls that are obviously different sizes when they hold them side by side, it’s possible.
Also, the videos I’m seeing were all made several years ago…most from 2017. It’s hard for me to look at a 5 year old product comparison and think it’s still viable, knowing that manufacturers don’t stand still with regard to R&D and product updates.
At the end of the day, what @LegsMahoney said holds true. Something is better than nothing.
Super great discussion guys. I’ve considered this, but this talk has me wanting to pull the trigger. I’m home nearly all the time, but murphy’s law says I’ll be away if something happens. Glad everyone else is taking measures to be safe as well.
I agree, an AFG is better than no fire protection. I think if I went with them I’d size up one just to be sure though.
Oil filled radiators do NOT reduce humidity.
Very well done. These are the reasons I use a small 700 watt liquid filled radiator in my closet grow and a big reason why I pulled in a separate 20 Amp circuit back to my Siemens service panel. Used 12G wire and a Siemens GFI with arc fault as well. Liquid filled heaters depending on the demand, cycle off and on depending on demand but heating the liquid is “smoother” than the continuous full power draw of other types of heaters.
https://www.newair.com/blogs/learn/the-reason-oil-filled-space-heaters-are-so-energy-efficient?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvImI8q7D9QIVrP3jBx0J9QqOEAMYAyAAEgKhnPD_BwE
Nice! The one thing I’m missing that I’d like to get upgraded in my grow area is having it run on a GFI/arc fault circuit. That would really add to my peace of mind.
thats as simple as replacing the outlet with a GFI correct?
Same thing outlet or breaker, breaker just protects everything downstream, outlet is easier to reset for most folks. For me, my tents are ten feet from the panel and I have a brand new quad box, so I’ll probably just have someone swap the breaker next time we need work done on the house.
One thing is that GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter) and AFCI (arc fault circuit interrupter) are different and both important to us as growers. GFCI prevents going to ground aka shocking us people with a grounded tent or light or wet floor whatever. AFCI prevents arc fires from shorts in the system. National electrical code requires both in kitchens and laundry rooms, which I think argues well for us using both. I have a GFCI dongle inline with my power supply (plugged between the wall box and my power strip) but I’d rather have something that is built in and does both.
ive got a similar setup, both of my tents in the same room as my breaker. ive put in GFCI’s before in an old condo before i sold it, pretty simple process, but i wasnt sure if something at the breaker level was a better bet, probably need to get someone in here to take a look at the setup and make some recommendations. i need a friend whos an electrician
Yeah my best friend has an electrician friend who we didn’t want to entrust the whole house project to, we found some guys from CT who were a family, dad’s a GC who does old houses and his son’s an electrician. Since we had to open up a lot of walls and floors we went with someone who knew old houses to minimize holes in the hardwood floors and horsehair plaster lath walls. Such a pain in the ass to patch back up afterwards, and the Dad was able to be like “nah that won’t work don’t put the hole there”. But that friend of a friend is absolutely the guy I’m calling to swap breakers and pull new wires, if I’m lucky he’ll want to barter labor for garden produce.
Keep in mind also that the NEC includes a lot of stuff…but it’s still up to state/county/city to adopt everything or not, so your state/locality may differ. Here’s some info from the National Association of Homebuilders about which states have adopted, modified, or declined to adopt the NEC provisions related to AFCI: https://www.nahb.org/-/media/NAHB/advocacy/docs/top-priorities/codes/arcfault-circuit-interrupters/afci-and-gfci-requirements-by-state-dec2020.pdf
EDIT: Building/electrical/plumbing/etc codes are complicated and often frustrating. 
They look ideal, looks like they’d take up no room like storage heaters👍
Yeah, very practical. Not too much power, 135 watts is enough for my 2x4 tent. Before I got it my temperature was too low for decent growth, like 18 C with lights on during the day and maybe 15 C at night with lights off. Now it’s constant at approximately 23 C. Plants are much happier!
Ok, that article on comfortably heating a home states that any heater that does not add moisture to the air will cause the RH to drop.
Warm air can carry more moisture than cold air but if the air is heated and no moisture added the RH has to drop.
I agree it’s a confusing subject but the liquid filled do not remove moisture they warm the air and lower humidity is a part of it. I will take liquid filled all day over other choices.
Yep me too purely for their power economy. I’m dealing with 30c in summer and down to 3c in winter so a portable ac unit is ideal.