I have read many threads about great polyhybrids on the new OG. I’m wondering about who is still working the old lines?
I see bushy is still kicking around here from the old days as @BogSeeds. As breeders what do you look for in your stock?
Stability , strength, uniqness, traits that match what a specific strain is known for or being bred towards.
Plants that reek of dank weed while still in veg always seem to be winners terp wise.
I think every breeder has different things they look for or see when hunting threw large populations.
Taking notes on past generations to have for a reference should be part of any well planned out breeding strategy.
Great answer @Heritagefarms
I would like to add that some of us are looking for a way back to more pure strains for the purpose of breeding and preserving. While I am amazed by many of the polyhybrids available and the amazing work by there respective propegators, I look and search for stature, plant toughness but mostly sexual stability. We can always breed potency into a plant but xx or in my opinion yy are my goals in selection. Again, in my opinion, we only prove these traits by stressing our stock and growing them out and killing the weak at least three times.
I am by no means DJ, or Sam or BOG or Charles but there wisdom guides me in proper selection and breeding practices. Breeding is truly a labour of love and I commend you all for your hard work in preserving our beutiful plant.
I’ve been on a journey for the same base materials. For me, it comes down to simple economics—over time I can dump hundreds of dollars into these hyped up polys that are a total crap shoot, or I can collect the building blocks and build my own crap shoots. And tilt the odds hugely in my favor that I can find (and replicate) something unique and special, for a bit more time and much less money.
Anyway, there’s still plenty of source material out there, just depends on how much work you’re up for.
Sinister Seeds has a solid NL#5.
Empyrean has a bunch of cool NL lines (crosses with SSH, haze types and inbred NL hybrids).
Skunk is a weird thing, Shanit at Mr. Nice has a lot of the classic Afghan/Skunks that emerged in the 90s; Critical Mass (Big Bud/Sk x Sk), Early Pearl x Skunk, Master Kush x Skunk, his Shit line is an IBL Skunk #1, Nordle is an Afghan(MLI)/Skunk IBL, G13 Skunk is an IBL (((G13 x Skunk)f4) x Skunk).
Duke Diamond of Dominion Seed Co has a bunch of Hashplant hybrids, skunk hybrids and Airborne G13 hybrids.
Shanti, again, is your man for Hazes (Mango Haze, Super Silver Haze, Nevil’s Haze, Early Haze, The Doors, etc).
The Real Seed Co., Indian Landrace Exchange, Afghan Selections, ExSitu, and occasionally Bodhi (Nierika seed lines) for the more non-domesticated Landrace gear.
Derg Corra Collective (via Seed Heaven) for some really cool work, too. Solid worked IBL Afghani, Pakistanis, some Killer Queens, Sensi Stars and Chocolate Thai… prices make the wait for shipping to and from Denmark totally worth it (takes about a month total from the great Bluegrass state).
I’m sure I can think of more eventually…
Crickets and Cicadas (MrBobHemphill) is doing some great HP/NL1 work…
Deep Ellum!! @deep_rob is the fucking man, dude (Dr. Dank, too, of course). These guys are dropping some super cool old school shit really soon.
It’s around if you look with the right set of eyes, my friend.
Scored a cpl old Schools recently
Sensi star f4 and UBCChemo from Jordan of the Islands
Those are both great stains I’d love a chance to see grown out
Last year, I found Cali Orange bud from White Label being quite close to what I remember smoking during the 90’s. Hardy strain, with consistent buds and resin, strong and warm high, orange/ hashy incense smell and taste. Don’t know its status (IBL or F1) since I did not reproduced it but I’m tempted to buy some again and produce a next generation just in case.
Tested also the Hindu Kush from Sensi in 2019, more mitigated results: less good germ rate, not so stable with two phenotypes really different during the grow and a longer flowering time than advertised. But the resulting high is of good quality, similar to what was advertised. Sativa phenotype high being more on the warm sunny side than the indica one, but only slightly. Both smelling a mix of citrus / rubber / camphra during flowering and only citrus/hashy when dried.
Overall, nice cool indica high not overpowering but with no hangover. It remembered me some imported afghan hash I sampled in the 90’s, so they may be legit but I’m not a specialist of those kind of strains.
Sometime I’m willing to do a Master Kush / Afghan Kush / Hindu Kush side by side grow to compare and learn more. I have some people around me that grew several Mazar landraces and found similar results (citrus / rubber smell and calm high), finding also strawberry/hashy leaning individuals that I did not found in the Sensi HK.