Triplold Seeds -
Yo @hawkman . I’ll start by saying that I haven’t grown these. I was interested @ first… but if you search “Donutz hermies” quite a few reports come up of such fun being seen. Talk of replacement packs from HSC/etc. Made >me< back off, for sure.
happy growin’ to ya!
I’m not sure about some of the claims of increased potency. I think what might give a lot of people here pause is triploids tend to be sterile, or at least less fertile than regular diploids. Hsc does have some nice strains that flower super fast already (like blueberry muffin). I had not heard the connection between triploid and herms…
I know Mac1 is a triploid clone, which I like a lot, so triploids can certainly be nice plants.
If i recall the donutz had the most herm issues when grown indoors under artificial lights which is why they advise outdoors only
This is not something that can be seen with the naked eye , people often confuse whorled or fasciated plants as a sign of triploid chromosomes when it is a separate yet interesting mutation.
Last time I checked dark heart nurseries had closed to the public and was working on creating custom genetically engineered plant.
Would not at all be shocked if they came out with a patented line of disease resistant plants that are quickly adopted by big commercial growers.
This is just history repeating itself , look into Monsanto , terminator pollen and genes etc and the general history of agriculture in this country and you will see that they are doing to cannabis is what they did to everything else, taking as much control as they can with little regard to the consequences or farmers who it hurts.
I had a triploid from pure dumb luck my first time growing full terms way back when. A Pineapple Chunk from Barney. It made really cool triple bud sites. But in no way was increased potency or hash yield. Maybe arguably regular yield? But it only finished at about a lb n a half, vs other stuff that were multi pounders. Any claims about increased bug resistence is bs for sure. That plant was a bug magnet lol. It also didnt clone for crap. After like 6 weeks it just had one piddly root comin out that was like 6 inches long, but never fully rooted/regrew. I think its mostly just trying to market vs sell anything actually game changing.
Good morning everyone … I had several packs of each Doughnuts and OG triploid’s. These were selling for roughly $30 a seed. With all of the attention they sold out rapidly. Some of the well-known YouTube cannabis creators definitely helped the hype train. There was a handful of herm issues Mainly from that particular you tube crowd. The actual confirmed herm count was low and could be genetic or more likely environmental as testing was not very thorough with indoor/LED . We all know too much light definitely can cause herm issues. Humbolt came out and did an interview regarding these findings. The sad part was they put two people up to discuss the problem that were not fully aware of the discussion that would take place and they were not ready for detailed questions and answers type interview. This poor performance lead people to believe that Humboldt was somehow responsible for not thoroughly testing indoors and not stating as such. I do not believe Humboldt has ever done indoor testing so this follows there normal pattern In my opinion. Some plants do not like high levels of light And will definitely cause herm issues. There was a fairly small quantity of these released and a small quantity of those had herm issues. As I recall, the number was six that was documented. That’s a very small percentage and even some of those issues could probably be Environmental. Humbolt came back and stated the donuts were for outdoor only. I believe this has more to do with the amount of light and close proximity to the light. The herm Issues I saw documented also encountered Lightburn. So obviously, there was too much light And most likely caused the herm issues. The OG triploid On the other hand has not been changed to outdoor. It also does not have any Herm issues documented. There is a lot of people who had great grows out of the donuts, triploid or OG triploid . Even people on this site have had success with the Triploids. In my opinion the doughnuts or OG Triploids will be great indoors or outdoors but will still require all your attention and skills to bring in a good harvest. I do believe you’ll see a lot more of these triploids In the coming months and years as growers are definitely wanting The most out of their gardens, indoor or outdoor. I’m not even sure you can buy a strawberry that’s not a triploid anymore I believe the entire strawberry market everywhere is triploid and that’s not the only crop lots of crops have followed in this path as profits dictate the markets and these triploids helped to push profits. Definitely sounds familiar as the cannabis market is trying to find any edge for profit just to stay in business. In my humble opinion, triploid’s are eventually going to take over the commercial market just like strawberries and many other crops. So if you like strawberries or other produce in general, you also like triploid’s.
There was just an auction for a pack of doughnutz here on this site but it just ended.
Sounds like a whorled plant not a triploid.
It’s called whorled phyllotaxi.
Triploid plants need to be confirmed by chromosome count not visual traits.
I threw that pack up for the auction. As I had already had my fun. Me and a partner had already ran them. We didn’t have herm issues, but we did have pest issues that existed prior to triploid run that did affect things. My garden was full and we opted to run them at my partner’s garden. And he did not run a clean ship so we battled aphids and it affected the outcome and we quickly moved on to the next project. But again at $30 a seed you might have to get quite a few seeds to get the pheno your after to actually have the results that we would want to see. I do believe some people might get lucky with a small count and have the phenotype there after but not enough people are documenting their results online for any real volume numbers to be accurate. I do believe my experience would be different if I had put them in my garden And maybe they would have been pest free. Also we didn’t have problems, cloning or anything else. The one notable difference was they were all slow in veg. This was also documented by Humbolt aswell. Don’t want to throw anybody off triploid’s as they could be a great option for various people’s needs.
Haha HSC on selecting males vs others breeders. There is “breeders” and there is breeders.
Pz 
IMO the jury is still out on the whole Triploid thing as a market-available item.
Also IMO, it’s gonna be a lot like autoflowers, where it’ll be a good decade or more in the market before they prove their worth as a trustworthy option. In the meantime I think it’s mostly hype-driven
If we ever get fed legal so BigAG can grow it like everything else, triploid’s and other GMO varieties will explode, likely to the detriment of all our current genetics.
Very much agreed… All early adopters encounter the most problems. They’re also the ones making the path for the rest to follow. So my hats off to anybody trying new things. The guys at Humboldt definitely took some hits on this from the YouTube community. I definitely take that with a grain of salt as I believe the math is still out to the jury on what could have caused the small amount of documented herms whether it’s genetic or environmental. But just think of other well known strains that throw an occasional herm. If we are to discredit those strains claiming they hermed and have no viability to offer we would’ve missed out on the great things they did have to offer. Humboldt is not set up for thorough indoor testing but obviously lots of people got these and only a small handful have been documented this is definitely something to consider the the vast majority have not reported. I believe Most people buy seed’s for their next grow so more information should probably come in this year regarding these triploids If not next year. I Would like to see the vast majority results, not the small percentage that we’re currently seeing before I make any judgment call on Humbolt’s Triploid’s. My one argument against Humbolt And it’s not only them doing it … Is the Reuse of names in particular, the OG. I I do think that is misleading as it leaves people to believe it’s the original OG Kush. It is not it is there variation of OG . I would like more seed companies to be more transparent With the naming of strains ect.
I highly applaud Nat and Ben @ HSC for just taking it like a champ from all angles 
lol! That whole interview seemed so thrown together & almost turned into something ugly, you could clearly see how agitated Nat was & he’s already not the greatest spokesman lol and I mean that jokingly and respectfully, that’s what he has Ben for, to explain stuff 
Anyways yeah, none of this turns me off of HSC gear, but I’m still steering clear of their Triploid gear til it gets vetted a little more
The only way triploids will be able to take over the market is having a better product. Logically this will happen with competition. But they will still have to earn the market like everything else we buy with a better product. I’m excited to see the next best thing whether it’s Triploid or a new land race strain that’s blowing up. I don’t believe the old genetics have any fear they didn’t already currently have before triploid’s. Cheers !!! Great topic …
I agree that interview if you call it that was a train wreck and a mistake. Should have been more thoroughly planned. Most people get a list of questions before the interview so that they can thoroughly plan their answers. This was obviously not done. It looked like a train wreck to me. Still like Humbolt I currently have Blueberry muffins in late flower.
That interview ----- and i won’t mention it anymore after this point ---- I feel like was a halfhearted attempt for the content creators to save face
Agreed my last comment on this aswell… If you had Lightburn, would you blame the seed company ? Lol Cheers everyone!!!